You know ... I don't want to keep posting on this. But it's said that the only thing evil men need to succeed is for good men to remain silent. So I have to fight the evil ignorance I see on this board.
That's rich. Sorry but, really... You made specific claims which have been shown to be false and yet you speak of the ignorance of others. Truly entertaining.
When people such as some of those posting such raging words allow themselves to stew with no words of sanity to interrupt their little psychotic world where the government is the root of all evil and why they are such failures in life ...
I made my first million at 28(my Ex-wife really appreciated it). How about you? But that's immaterial. What matters is here's another instance of you seeking to minimalize those who don't think like you because you simply don't have a position, let alone support for one.
I'm am not the fascist-kill-the-children the government-is-always-right guy so many want to make me out to be by taking words out of context.
I am pretty certain your words have been repeatedly directly quoted complete with context. Did you say something you didn't mean?
It's everyone's job to watch the government and fight them -- either through the justice system or, if the situation becomes insane, though other measures (and no -- this country isn't 1/10th insane enough for that).
Your opinion. Looks to me , with legislation currently coming at us and the likely next POTUS to utilize that legislation, like we're about one step away from it.
I'm just saying ... while it's better to be tried by 12 then carried by 4, it's also better to be tried by 12 than to be gunned down by LEO's and then carried by 4 (or swept up by one). Because unless you really are part of a proper revolution with enough backing to be more than a handful of nuts out of a nation of 300 million, an armed standoff will not result in anything positive. Ever. Period.
And yet here we are, all these years later, arguing the issue and causing people to think about the subject, regardless of their position. Most of them realize something was desperately wrong in Waco, too, and it wasn't, for the most part, the Davidians. But since you don't appear to see this discussion in a positive light I suppose you would see no positive result...
If the branch Davidians either hadn't met the agents with murder, or had surrendered when it became clear they were facing government agents with warrants on days 1 - 50, they would have ended up in the criminal justice systems ...
Except that once the Davidians drew blood they were left without choices, including the choice of surrendering. They were repeatedly denied this option. As such, if the government had done its job properly by serving the correct warrants in the proper fashion,
or at least negotiating in good faith those Davidians might still be alive...
It DOESN'T matter what the specifics of the warrant were, because the DAVIDIANS din't know the specifics when they opened up.
If a bunch of black suited idiots swarm my house I'll shoot first and ask questions later. I employ attorneys to clean up the mess afterwards. OTOH, if LEO walks up and slaps me with papers, even if they are wrong, I'll probably go along(barring certain previously mentioned issues).
UNDER THE CONSTITUTION of this country, the constitution so many on this board pretend to believe in and defend, a warrant issued by a judge is proper and must be obeyed. If it is wrongfully issued, the solution is in court; not in a blaze of gunfire.
Not automatically true, but that gets into a much broader issue of proper laws and we'll just let that go for now.
For those of you who intend an armed standoff -- more power to you. You won't be missed.
Of course we will. Maybe not by you, but you don't represent everybody...as i hope you realize.
And we'll make sure any children that survive are raised by politically correct people to be good democrats and anti-gun.
Nah. Many of us took the time to keep the boob-tube out of the house and our children out of government schools, so they are pretty well contamination proof.
THAT fact really scares the Powers That Be, too, ya know.
Because if you allow yourself to be killed in a situation where you could have chosen not to, even if it meant not turning over your .45, then you have surrendered your children to the fates and are a bad parent.
Bases already covered. See, some good things DID come of these past events. Not only can we keep conciousness stirred up regarding it thru venues like this we know more about what to prepare for.
And you got what you deserved. Like the Branch Davidians.
So if it's bad law and all venues to fight its implementation were used before hand and they STILL made it law then what? Submit or "get what you deserve"? Sorry, that's not a simple black/white issue.
So pull a few words out of there at a time if you want and twist it however you want, those are facts. Think about them. Just think about them.
Once again, I quote your words in context as you have written them. Your statements stand for themselves. i couldn't rewrite them and have them reflect any more poorly.
If the govt. were as evil as you want to believe, wouldn't posting on this board have Black Helicopters turning up at your house?
Nah, so far just a couple suits but who knows what the future holds.
