Yes, I do realize that but you do realize that that DT or Underwood ammo costs 90 cents/round for hot 200 grain .40 ammo going 1000 fps while 200 grain CCI 10mm that's going 1050 fps costs 50 cents/round.You do realize you can buy what is ballistically '+P' .40S&W ammo, right? (even though it's not labeled as such)
DT, for example, sells a 200gn .40S&W load @ 1050fps. That's a +P .40 load for that bullet-weight. Underwood's 200gn HardCast offering is 50fps slower, but in .40 that's still over standard velocity (for that bullet-weight).
http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=303_341&product_id=108
https://www.underwoodammo.com/colle...in-hard-cast-flat-nose?variant=18785705295929
In factory 10mm ammo, 200gns @ 1000-1050fps is down-loaded junk.
So there's still no need to buy watered-down 10mm ammo if all you want to do is shoot .40-level or .40+P level ammo. Get a .40S&W drop-in tube for your G20 or G29, and blast away all day long. Over time you're saving yourself $$$.
Better still, don't get a 10mm pistol at all ... Just get a .40 pistol and call it good.
I got all the popular pistol calibers covered. The 10mm for me is pure admiration for the impressive downrange energy. You really don't get a sense for determining "energy" unless you have to opportunity to shoot steel "flip" type targets. My gun club has a steel "dueling tree"
https://shop.actiontarget.com/content/at-102-pt-dueling-tree-heavy-duty.asp
Shooting the paddles at 50' with 9mm requires a well placed shot favoring the outer edge to allow the paddle to fully flip to the opposite side. A .45 will thump the paddle better, and the speed at which the paddle moves is a bit quicker. You lay a 10mm 180 gr bullet traveling at 1225 fps off the paddle and let me tell you it whacks that paddle with robust authority. In certain circumstances the paddle actually rebounds from the opposite side and ends up facing slightly rearward.
Paul Harrell did a comparison of the two calibers and for myself would want to shoot the gun often and the cost of 10mm high and hard to get, or not as easily to purchase. 45 on the other hand is every where.
Because in case you hadn't heard, there's this thing now called 'on-line ordering.'
That only applies to those states, but that is something to consider as with how ignorant the general/average citizen is about guns I could see a law get passed and overnight ammo sales over the internet get banned.And in case YOU haven't heard, some states have banned internet purchases of ammunition.
Because in case you hadn't heard, there's this thing now called 'on-line ordering.'
And in case YOU haven't heard, some states have banned internet purchases of ammunition.
Such a list should NOT include states which merely restrict on-line purchases by requiring the ammo to be shipped to an FFL. That's not a 'ban.'
Such a list should NOT include states which merely restrict on-line purchases by requiring the ammo to be shipped to an FFL. That's not a 'ban.'
DUDE< if you live in a remote area, where none of the FFL will receive the ammo, than it is a ban or extreme hardship. I should know, because I am one of those. Are you?
I've been trying to find commercial .45 super for over three months, and so far no luck in my area, nor any FFL that will accept from the boutique companies.
An FFL is NOT REQUIRED to accept online private orders.
SO yes, it is a ban in effect.
State laws can require shipment of on-line orders to be to and through an FFL to the purchaser, unless federal law dictates otherwise.
Glock 10mm's can shoot .40 without any modifications, which means when another panic comes all the .40 on the shelves you'll be able to shoot while everyone is at home reloading 9mm on their single stage RCBS they had to dust off.I need to stop reading these comments. I cannot afford another gun nor do I need one. I've never owned a 10mm before. I also have always carried a 45ACP or hot 9mm rounds as my sidearm when I'd go hunting down here as those two would and thankfully have stopped everything that I've personally encountered.
But a 10mm would leave no doubt in my mind.......
STOP.
Because... it's a 10mm!
(DI gas operated RMW upper-Angstadt lower)
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I used to only carry 45s and said I had no use for a 9mm... that didn't last so long. After the 9s, I said I had no use for a 10mm. Well, that didn't work either. Sometimes you just have to give in and accept defeat. lolI need to stop reading these comments. I cannot afford another gun nor do I need one. I've never owned a 10mm before. I also have always carried a 45ACP or hot 9mm rounds as my sidearm when I'd go hunting down here as those two would and thankfully have stopped everything that I've personally encountered.
But a 10mm would leave no doubt in my mind.......
STOP.
10mm is the ultimate handloader's cartridge.