Pulling a carry gun is for when you are out of options, avoidance and retreat if possible are the plan before that.
in the late 80s the Bersa 383A was termed a "rat gun" because it was too big to be called a mouse gun but not of a "serious" caliber either. I guess this would have included the walther pp/ppk series guns.Don't think even close. "Mouse gun" is more in the line of the Kel-Tec P32, P3at, Ruger LCP, Taurus Spectrum. Mostly 380 acp or 32 acp that will disappear in most any pocket.
Even Glock's entry, the G42 is too big to be a true "mouse gun".
Maybe wee need another term. Like "Hamster" gun. Same Idea as a mouse, but a bit bigger.
LOL, really?, JERRYS has a very pertinent point there jar, when your safety and life are on the line defending ones self or others with a firearm is what will take presidence, and a proper investigation will reveal that the shooting will be justified.
LOL, really?, JERRYS has a very pertinent point there jar, when your safety and life are on the line defending ones self or others with a firearm is what will take presidence, and a proper investigation will reveal that the shooting will be justified.
Always thought a shortened up "compact" Tokarev, better yet M57, would be a really cool CCW gun. With the 7.62X25 round being a real zinger.A Tokarev may fit in that, it's only 30 cal but have to have really big pockets to fit it
Always thought a shortened up "compact" Tokarev, better yet M57, would be a really cool CCW gun. With the 7.62X25 round being a real zinger.
The main conclusion on caliber is that anything in the range of .380 - .45 is similarly effective to the point where the differences are negligible. Many other articles out there using differing methodology come to similar conclusions. Of course that doesn't settle the argument generated about whether the tiny difference is enough to stop a crazed 250 lb attacker flying on Angel Dust vs a crazed 210 lb attacker on meth.
Bill DeShivs, well said.
Of course larger calibers are more effective. HOW MUCH more effective, though? Enough to dress around 2 pounds of large gun-or would a 10 ounce gun in your pocket suffice?
Great point Rogervzv.One thing to keep in mind is that the purpose of a CCW holder in being armed is different than the objective of a law enforcement officer or for that matter a soldier. The civilian CCW holder simply wants to be able to force a bad guy to break contact and go away. A LEO needs to be able to apprehend and force compliance.