JuanCarlos
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And on the other side, we have rampant pregnancies among young girls, some as young as 12, all over the US. Underage teen pregnancy rates are the highest is US history. Why then, is not EVERY ONE of these teenage mothers children take away as soon as they are born? [1] Why are the parents of these young teens not jailed? Why are not all children in these parents homes, taken by CPS, since they couldn't stop one teen from getting abused and pregnant, then their other children are surely in danger of the same under the lax supervision of these terrible parents. [2] Why isn't this happening? Why is it acceptable that this happens in mainstream society, but when it happens behind the walls of a "weirdo religious compound" it requires tanks and swat teams?
Simply being the child of a teenage mother is not a sign of abuse (of the child, not the mother). So that answers 1. In fact, that assertion was silly enough that I'm not sure why I'm responding, but I'll go ahead and finish.
As to 2, we'll start with the assumption that a teenage pregnancy is a sign of a lack of supervision. It's not. All it requires is a little teenage sex, which pretty much just requires letting your daughter (or son) out of your sight for about 8 minutes. In seriousness, though, this supposed "lack of supervision" would appear to occur in a majority of homes, given median ages of lost virginity. In fact, I'll go ahead and suggest that you're insulting the parents of more than a few posters here, even some of the older ones, though I'll not ask anybody to come forward. Plus you're probably insulting many of the parents who post here, though some of them may not even know it.
The difference, to continue to respond to number 2, is that in the case of these families the parents are not just failing to stop it; they're encouraging it and in at least some cases (if the stories of ex-members are to be believed) pressuring their daughters into it.
Let me just ask this. Do you see any difference between an underage girl choosing to have sex with her teenage (possibly equally underage) boyfriend, and a girl being arranged to have sex with a 40-year-old (or even 25-year-old) man? Please don't bother responding to my post unless you're willing to answer that question.
Can't anyone see the double standard?
Nope. Not seeing it. If we were talking about in individual, non-FLDS home where the parents were found to be encouraging their 14-year-old daughter to marry an older man, I'd take their kids away (all of them) lickety split as well. It's not about the religion, or the compound, or the tanks and SWAT teams. It's about the fact that doing that to your children is wrong, because we're talking about drastic life-altering decisions you're encouraging them to make before they can fully understand them, that will affect them for the rest of their lives.
It wouldn't matter if it was one kid or, in this case, 400. The only reason the scale here is so large is because, in the context of a group communal home, you have to assess whether all the kids in that communal home are in similar danger. Well, that and because this level of double-you-tee-eff doesn't generally can't reach critical mass unless you get a large group of like-minded individuals together and separate from mainstream society a bit.
Both to keep your actions from being noticed, and to ensure that the kids don't realize you're full of crap when you tell them that they'll be forced into do drugs and make gangbang films if they venture beyond your loving, protective walls.
Oh, and to respond to your original foolishness:
Lets suppose they teach love and spiritual harmony, and are completely religiously fanatic in their beliefs. Lets suppose that they honestly and fully believe that marrying at 14 is spiritually right for them, and they are not just doing this to get "young meat" as so many have put it. They honestly believe they are doing as God instructs, and as they have been taught, no doubt by their parents, grandparents, ect. Lets suppose, that these girls, and young women, raised this way, have no problem with this, and believe they are gloifying God by having many children.
Well, it would appear that at least some of these girls come around eventually to thinking they were taken advantage of, and coerced/pressured/just plain duped into such arrangements. Or else, more than likely, we'd not hear a whole lot about these folks. And Warren Jeffs wouldn't be in jail. But, as I said before, it's not unheard of (in fact it's somewhat common) for people, upon getting a little older (late teens, 20's), to question the religious beliefs they were raised with...often abandoning them entirely. For some, this means knowing a few songs and a few lost Sunday mornings. Apparently for others it means a 50-year-old ex-husband (or possibly just a 30-year-old ex-husband that was her cousin) and maybe a few kids.
There's a reason we have minimum ages of consent, for both sexual relations and marriage. If you don't get that, I can't help you.