so...there are no cooks in the armed forces?

RE: The past lives thing that Millcreek was talking about. Any body ever add up the numbers of people that would have to have been around in the past for all the current large population to have ALL have had past lives? Does not compute. And yes I was a navy seal in the continental navy circa 1776 :D
 
the highest award I got was "AF Good Conduct Medal". A lot they knew. They just never watched me close enough.
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Joeha, me also :D (and I even got three clusters to boot :D).

Well, I do have an outstanding unit award w/cluster also and I consider getting that in the line of fire and doing special ops. We had a Major then that was bucking for Lt. Col. :eek:

Wayne
 
I hate posting "i have a friend this...I have a friend that..."etc. but along with my Army SF buddy, I do also have a long-time-no-see friend who was in the Navy and was SEAL 4 (he said the hardiest get SEAL 1), last I got a chance to talk to him and down some Bourbon with him, he told me that he was off to New Zealand to train with British S.A.S., that was a little before Desert Shield came rolling around and I have not heard anything from him since. He shared alot of what he had to go through, told me the physical demands were NOTHING compared to the mental toughness and determination that was needed to graduate...and then he began to elaborate on the physical demands and exercises that they had to do...all I can say is, they have got to be some Mentally tough sonsabreeches. He did say that after graduation was when all the real fun starts, he also said most SEAL who have actually seen combat or been involved in an action...will not even tell you that they are SEAL, said the loudmouths are the ones that just graduated, said "you learn to be low profile all the time, because that is your job...".
That said, he is still nothing compared to my Tempura Kimchee Ninja/Delta Force Commando-Special Operations Team Sniper training that I had gotten in my past life as the Emperor of Rome.
 
I was a sort of cook

I did two tours of "mess cook" in the Navy. I wasn't a Mess Specialist- those guys did the actual cooking. All E-3 and below had to pull a 90 day tour cleaning up the mess deck and the galley.
 
When I found out my range buddy was retired SEAL, I naturally wanted to ask him a lot of questions, without going "golly gee whiz" :D . So I keep the questions to a minimum and never ask him about actual missions. But I did ask him what the toughest thing about training was, and his answer surprised me. He said, "the cold, it's the great demoralizer". He also said it was the major reason for most quitting or not making it.
 
90% - 95% Of the Military or Former Military folks I meet are either snipers or some Spec Ops. I was starting to think that was all we had.
 
Thumbtack,

90% - 95% Of the Military or Former Military folks I meet are either snipers or some Spec Ops. I was starting to think that was all we had.
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I feel the same way, why are they embarressed at what they did while serving our country.

Hell, cooks make the troops move on, think about it, if you don't eat, you get weak, you can't fight, you die.

Everyone, cooks, contracting officers, whatever keep the military units going. No matter what you did while serving, one to to remember that you kept the force (troops) going in one way or another. If your job (MOS or AFSC in my case) wasn't needed, it wouldn't have been there in the first place.

Wayne
 
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My speciality in the Navy was Hull Technician. Welder, plumber, all around dirty work. My best story is the time I plugged a leak in the hull with a wooden wedge, then used the saw on my Swiss Army knife to trim it. Once in port, we welded it shut from the outside.
 
If your job (MOS or AFSC in my case) wasn't needed, it wouldn't have been there in the first place.
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Well yes and no. Most MOS's are vital, but a very few are fluff that have no warfighting function. We can do without them if not for the PC attitude at some echelons of command.
 
joeha,

Thanks for your work. Most agree that AF chow halls (excuse me, dining facilities) are the best in the armed forces. Services keep bases up and running from the food to the gym to the swimming pool and we appreciated it. BTW, they weren't watching any of us close enough for the Good Conduct Medals. :D
 
I just wanted to tip my hat to the soldiers who worked in the 1st Cavalry Division's Division Artillery Dining Facility at Fort Hood, Texas, 1981-1985. Those soldiers prepared some of the best chow I've ever eaten.
 
Not long after I separated from the AF (but before I got married), a friend and I were in a bar. He was engaged in conversation with the guy on the other side of him, so I couldn't hear what was being said. He turned to me and asked : "Do they not have cooks and clerks in the Military anymore?"
I replied "Yeah, why?" He said, very loudly, "Then how come every M****F**** that wants to fight me claims he was SF or a SEAL?" The gemtleman next to him left.

The USAF does have Sniper as a job now. If that position had been open and I qualified, I might have stayed in longer.
 
The best cook story I can remeber is when we went to Camp Bullis outside of Ft. Sam Houston. Our Mess Sgt who was an old and grizzly Cajun E-8. He was the epitomy of the old Army cooks. In his mess hall he was god..lol. No matter who came in they better follow the rules....

On that day he was inspecting those old brown trays they had....he was telling some Captain that they needed to be DXed (turned in) because they had cracks in em (food can get lodged in the cracks causing food poisioning). The Captain disagreed and said they were servicable. He then procedded to break every tray with a crack in it in the mess hall ( which was most of em) then wrote up the facility because it was following improper sanitary measures which might cause food posioning. Captain ran out with his tail tucked between his legs.

We were all ROFL our butts off.

The only other time I laughed like that when I was the Operations NCO for a NCOES academy. We had a Command Sergeant major who ws the commandant of the academy. He had signed for the parking lot area. We were approached by a rep who was form the DoD Nurses medical school an Air Force Captain. He procedded to tell the CSM the rules for the parking lot...the CSM recommended he go back to the garrison office and talk to them..lol. The Base OIC recommended that the Captain be nice to CSM as he had signed for the parking lot lock stock and barrel...lol

So the CSM being the nice guy he was...lol . gave the Captain some spaces for his vehicles. Then the Captain asked if the CSM might move some of the big nasty Army trucks as the Colonel/O6 who was the school commondant might come out in the parking lot and not see a truck coming..

hahaha

the CSM then told the Captain if an O6 cant see a big f****** Camoed Army Truck he needs to get run over....LOLOLOLOLOL

We didnt see the Captain for the rest of our stay. The Colonel did come by and told us the Captain had repeated it to him..he said he laughed his butt off. Told us the captain was a weenie anyway..lol
 
When I went into the Army, my Father who had made a career of the AF, told me that there are three people and only three people in every company that have real power. He told me to understand these three roles and if possible to make friends with them (and no matter what else do not make enemies of) and life in uniform will be at least tolerable. In no particular order:

1. The Company Cook.
2. The Supply Seargeant.
3. The Company Clerk.

Everyone else, he told me, is just window dressing, especially the CO and the LTs. You know what, he was right. Those are the three men who hold a company together, the rest are just window dressing.
 
Just did some NCOES Courses back there in 91 or 92.....wasnt stationed there.

Most of us were Instructors and Ops folks. kinda of a last minute deal to get some Junior NCOs trained up.

We all stayed in that big house next to the huts.....

hehe

which reminded me we had to go draw the furniture to make some of the huts into classrooms. The only problem is that we needed all the junior enlisted folks to do the clerical work and inprocessing >_< so a bunch of us Master Sgts hopped on the back of the Deuce and a half..lol

We got to the place to draw the furniture and some poor E-4 asked me where the detail was. I said your looking at it... about 6 E-8s...he said f*** what unit are yall in I wanna make sure I dont get into that..lol.
 
1. The Company Cook.
2. The Supply Seargeant.
3. The Company Clerk.
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wise words.....

I know a Second LT who pissed off a comapny clerk ( one of my friends).. he flew to his next location and his finance and personnel records took the slow boat to his next station. courtesy of a pissed off company clerk. In the old days you couldnt get paid without those...lol. Didnt have computers then :D

Does anybody remember when you were still paid in cash by the company payroll officer?

I remember having to draw a .45 and a Jeep and go pick up the LT who was usually a payroll officer. Drove to the Finance Office. They locked you in a holding area with a crapload of cash....you and the Pay Officer had to count over a 100,000 dollars sometimes >_< then he had to sign for it

then everyone had to report for pay :D
 
Did my detour through Camp Bullis in 1975.
My folks met there in 1955.

On them posers, call 'em on it every time. Don't hesitate.

Sam
 
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