so...there are no cooks in the armed forces?
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Well back in the days I use to hump them hills in nam with Master Sgt Gunny Technical Major John Rambo we didn't care what MOS or AFSC we were in. We just cared how many ears we had in our charm holder. Shoot I even had enough time to shoot a couple of dozen camel jockeys in Iraq. Yes it was Al Salem Iraq. I snipe them from 1000 yards and cut 'em in half with my M29 sniper rifle topped off with my super secret scope. I was only 15 when I went to nam, reason my 60 year old eyes couldn't anything over 1000 yards. I did make Staff Sgt Gunnery specialist and I can retire. Yes I made more money than the Brigadier Admiral. I was awarded star medals, bronze, silver and gold. When I put my mess dress I look like I was an olympic champion. Got to go, I got flashbacks of nam and everything else in between. 
josh. MSgt USAF 25 Oct 85 - still active.
josh. MSgt USAF 25 Oct 85 - still active.And if someone claims to have been in the Navy, ask them what their NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification) was, or for an officer, ask them what community they were in. If they say they don't remember, ask them what it said on their DD-214! If they don't know what any of these things are, you have to wonder about their veracity....
A good Mess SGT was worth thier weight in gold......
however if you call them Mess Sgts today they get thier feathers ruffled
its Food Service SGT now...lol
I had the hardest time with that when the Army converted over to the term dining facility.... I still called it a mess hall for a while
however if you call them Mess Sgts today they get thier feathers ruffled
its Food Service SGT now...lol
I had the hardest time with that when the Army converted over to the term dining facility.... I still called it a mess hall for a while
AF Security Forces...
Yep it's all one happy family now (since about 97)....... This includes the National Guard unit I am in now as well. To put it simple and to the point, what used to be 3 seperate career fields is now one. Combat Arms Instuctors, LE Specialist and Security Specialist are now in one field. Often still called Security Police but known as Defense Force Members as well. The change was made for a number of real world reasons. I think it has worked out very well.
Yep it's all one happy family now (since about 97)....... This includes the National Guard unit I am in now as well. To put it simple and to the point, what used to be 3 seperate career fields is now one. Combat Arms Instuctors, LE Specialist and Security Specialist are now in one field. Often still called Security Police but known as Defense Force Members as well. The change was made for a number of real world reasons. I think it has worked out very well.
This is true, as with all acronyms. If a letter stands for a word, it should be capitalized.
I've always thought that the acronym "SEAL" was one that stretches the rules, since it stands for "SEa Air Land"... Why include the "E" in "sea"? Just because it makes a cutesie acronym that's pronouncable and looks like a real word.
Oh, I'd rather be a sea LION. They're way cooler than regular seals.
-blackmind
Arizona Fusilier
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Well, this talk reminds me of the best chow I ever had in the Army.
When I was at Fort Drum, we ended up doing an AT evaluation of some New England National Guard units (I say that because it was the mountain battalion scattered across Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine). Talk about a boondoggle, we went North up to Canada in order to insure there was enough snow.
At any rate, we ended up in Quebec, and the local Canadian unit there, like others in Quebec, take after the French military tradition of mess. In other words, fantastic, rich, nay opulent, food! And it was all you can eat, much like our Navy. You should have tasted the desserts!
But then again, every meal in Ranger school was a godsend, wasn't it?
When I was at Fort Drum, we ended up doing an AT evaluation of some New England National Guard units (I say that because it was the mountain battalion scattered across Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine). Talk about a boondoggle, we went North up to Canada in order to insure there was enough snow.
At any rate, we ended up in Quebec, and the local Canadian unit there, like others in Quebec, take after the French military tradition of mess. In other words, fantastic, rich, nay opulent, food! And it was all you can eat, much like our Navy. You should have tasted the desserts!
But then again, every meal in Ranger school was a godsend, wasn't it?
Its funny when you see some 20 year old walk around saying he was a Navy SEAL with multiple deployments despite the fact that it can take years to fully train one team and they work on rotations for deployments that spans over a year for one deployment. I always ask the posers I see(not a lot thankfully, they piss me off) stuff like what class were they in, who was their swim buddy or class leader or how long it took them to get their Trident. One of the most outrageous answers I got from a guy was that he was from Class 30, he was the class leader and didnt need a swim buddy and it took him 1 week to get his Trident cause he was that good. Intresting considering the fact that if he was in Class 30 that would make him about 60 something years old and the guy was only 30-ish, not to mention EVERY man that goes though BUD/S has a swim buddy and if a trainee is extremely lucky and skillful the earliest he can qualify for his Trident is 6 months. That means he woulda had to have completed jump school, STT, language school, etc all within a week. I mean, if your gonna bs bout something least make it convincing.
NJ-Dirtrdr
Inactive
Fired Up
I've been browsing TFL for a little while now, never had a reason to become a member until now. I take strong offense to the posers this thread is referring to. As a member of our Armed Forces, I accept the risks and hardships that go with it. I accept that look in my wife's eye when I tell her we didn't get the duty station we were hoping for, and I would love to be able to plan a vacation to make it up to her, but I can't easily do either. Heck, I'd love just to be able to finally have some time to fix up that 'ol car in my garage, but that will have to wait also. The path I've chosen is 100% my choice. The irony is that I fight for these posers' rights to say whatever they want to say, yet somehow they are cheating the true veterans. While not knowing their supposed MOS is embarassing and telling, not knowing the brothership and quality of people they would have gotten to work with had they been what they said they were is their loss. They can take credit for our work, but they have no idea what they missed out on.
-TWG
I've been browsing TFL for a little while now, never had a reason to become a member until now. I take strong offense to the posers this thread is referring to. As a member of our Armed Forces, I accept the risks and hardships that go with it. I accept that look in my wife's eye when I tell her we didn't get the duty station we were hoping for, and I would love to be able to plan a vacation to make it up to her, but I can't easily do either. Heck, I'd love just to be able to finally have some time to fix up that 'ol car in my garage, but that will have to wait also. The path I've chosen is 100% my choice. The irony is that I fight for these posers' rights to say whatever they want to say, yet somehow they are cheating the true veterans. While not knowing their supposed MOS is embarassing and telling, not knowing the brothership and quality of people they would have gotten to work with had they been what they said they were is their loss. They can take credit for our work, but they have no idea what they missed out on.
-TWG
Byron Quick
Staff In Memoriam
I just recently met a guy who claimed to be a cook in the military...now.
You could have knocked me over.
I know a Green Beret NCO who was in Laos. I've known him since he retired and returned here to his hometown. About thirty years ago.
I know him fairly well. The only reason I know he was Green Beret and in Laos is that my uncle was also career Army and knew some of the details of his career. Another of their childhood friends retired as a full colonel. A mustang. The retired colonel and my uncle have told me about the man. I wouldn't even know he was in the military to hear him talk. He's never mentioned it.
But, he can't hide it. Time you see that old man stand up; you know you're looking at career Army. And when he levels those eyes at you...it's like looking down cannon barrels. He's a nice guy. He just looks at everyone like a redtailed hawk looking at a rabbit.
You could have knocked me over.
I know a Green Beret NCO who was in Laos. I've known him since he retired and returned here to his hometown. About thirty years ago.
I know him fairly well. The only reason I know he was Green Beret and in Laos is that my uncle was also career Army and knew some of the details of his career. Another of their childhood friends retired as a full colonel. A mustang. The retired colonel and my uncle have told me about the man. I wouldn't even know he was in the military to hear him talk. He's never mentioned it.
But, he can't hide it. Time you see that old man stand up; you know you're looking at career Army. And when he levels those eyes at you...it's like looking down cannon barrels. He's a nice guy. He just looks at everyone like a redtailed hawk looking at a rabbit.
Says right in here on my DD-214, in the box marked Primary Specialty Number "62350, Services Specialist". Yup, I was a USAF cook from '85 until '89. Our (unofficial) Motto: "Death From Within"
The only sneaking around/commando stuff I ever did was trying to get a steak out of the freezer before MSgt could catch me. I had about a 60% success rate.
The only SEAL type stuff I ever did was that I may have had seal on my pizza in Japan. It was dark, the time was late, I was far from the base so nobody "Speaka my language" and I just pointed to pictures of meat-like things I wanted on my pie.
Instead of multiple Medals of Honor, like some wannabes I've met have claimed, the highest award I got was "AF Good Conduct Medal". A lot they knew. They just never watched me close enough.
Just a side note to an earlier post. My training was '85 at Lowry AFB in Denver. The cooks were on one side of the building while the Billeting people were on the other side. Our training never crossed with theirs. I suppose we could have covered for each other but it never happened. Cooking was scary enough with us who were trained for the Black (charred) Arts.
SuperChef
The Man From the Planet Teflon
Lackland AFB, Texas '85
Lowry AFB, Colorado '85
Yokota AB, Japan '85-'87
George AFB, California '87-'89
The only sneaking around/commando stuff I ever did was trying to get a steak out of the freezer before MSgt could catch me. I had about a 60% success rate.
The only SEAL type stuff I ever did was that I may have had seal on my pizza in Japan. It was dark, the time was late, I was far from the base so nobody "Speaka my language" and I just pointed to pictures of meat-like things I wanted on my pie.
Instead of multiple Medals of Honor, like some wannabes I've met have claimed, the highest award I got was "AF Good Conduct Medal". A lot they knew. They just never watched me close enough.
Just a side note to an earlier post. My training was '85 at Lowry AFB in Denver. The cooks were on one side of the building while the Billeting people were on the other side. Our training never crossed with theirs. I suppose we could have covered for each other but it never happened. Cooking was scary enough with us who were trained for the Black (charred) Arts.
SuperChef
The Man From the Planet Teflon
Lackland AFB, Texas '85
Lowry AFB, Colorado '85
Yokota AB, Japan '85-'87
George AFB, California '87-'89
It's based out of Little Creek, VA, and its theatre of responsibility is Central and South America.
You think you run across a lot of SQUEALS, you ain't seen nothing until you work law enforcement a bit.
Some days seems like every two-bit DWI and Domestic Abuser we bust is a super-secret-squirrel Delta-type.
That is, when they're not on loan to the DEA.
LawDog
3 weelin geezer
New member
The only sneaking around/commando stuff I ever did was trying to get a steak out of the freezer before MSgt could catch me. I had about a 60% success rate.
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I snuck some McDonalds :barf: into the freezer and kept it out of sight from the company commanders by taking butter boxes from the middle of the pallet and stacking the others so you could push the box over the empty spot and it would look normal when I went to boot camp. We weren't even allowed to go NEAR McDonalds :barf: . Maybe because there was also the bowling alley next door and they sold beer
and I think cigarettes. Not to mention we were supposed to be getting into shape not out of.
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I snuck some McDonalds :barf: into the freezer and kept it out of sight from the company commanders by taking butter boxes from the middle of the pallet and stacking the others so you could push the box over the empty spot and it would look normal when I went to boot camp. We weren't even allowed to go NEAR McDonalds :barf: . Maybe because there was also the bowling alley next door and they sold beer
and I think cigarettes. Not to mention we were supposed to be getting into shape not out of.