so...there are no cooks in the armed forces?

My grandpa was a cook in WWII as well. Maybe he says it to refrain from telling war stories? I doubt it, because he's a fat guy. Then again, so am I and by that logic, I must be an Army cook.

As far as sniping goes, why does no one mentioned they are Chaplains? I go to school with several. Of course, I am in Seminary so that explains a lot.
 
When I went to boot camp for the Coast Guard the very first assignment I had was to cook hambergers for the 25 guys that came in at 1:30 AM on a late bus..............
 
All of you bow down to ME, the real popeye. I will whoop all your collective sniper butts with a mere look just let me get to my spinach. I am also part of the Men in Black only that I don't wear black so you don't notice me. Or was it because I just did that flash thing I do in your eyes? Yes I am in the navy. So? If I have to kill someone, I am not doing this because I enjoy it. I won't sing songs and break my arm patting myself on the back. Thats not right. Someone somewhere is missing their loved one because of that which I had to do to stay alive. Not that I have ever had to kill someone but the concept is the same. Those guys are probably just boot camp rejects looking for attention. Real snipers don't tell you what they did. Oh, yeah. Did I forget to mention I am a Vietnam veteran? Give me money and I will get away from your car window with my sign. What a disgrace if those guys really are vietnam veterans or veterans of any war/conflict/debate or whatever. Lazy bums they are!

You know, reading the title of this thread I thought you wrote crooks not cooks. Yes there are cooks/crooks in the service. I have been known to burn a peice of meat for the guys here and there. Not that they liked my 'cooking' so I got extra. There are also Kooks which is different. But I guess they don't last there very long especially if you color your whites pink go dancing and mooning the captain in his office and/or tell them you want to kill yourself (full metal jacket comes to mind here) .
 
My brother in law when he was in the US Navy knew a cook. Unfortantly the cook got assigned to an aircraft carrier and decided to watch the planes take off one day and stood in the wrong place, in this case right in the range of the jet engines and when it took off he was fried. I guess since then they have had no cooks.
 
What I really get a chuckle at are the bums that stand by the roadside "please help, disabled 'nam veteran" (and yes, the sign say's "nam" on it).

And the idiots aren't much older then I, 37 on down.

I pissed off one of these " 'nam vets" by giving him the number to the VA, told him he could get money, free health care, and such.

He said a few choice words and I just drove off laughing. All he was, a poser, looking to "cash in" on the working idiots out there.

Yeah, even in the military I've "met" the "combat comm" wannabes, especially in the dorm. Since I was Comm. myself, and had access to know them (which I did know a few), I would call up to check the roster.... and wouldn't you know it, they weren't there :confused: ;) .

Wayne

edited to add: I'm not a seal, combat Comm., sniper whatever, or whatever. The nearest I came to "combat" was guarding a dune at Price Saltun. The first and only time they put an M-16 into my hands other then qualification. I knew what I had to do if it was to be done, but hey, the nearest I came to dying on the field of battle was when I got hit with sun stroke while there (my fault, ran out of water on the walk back to "tent city").
 
I've known or met 2 Army cooks (outside of my tour), 1 Navy cook, and 1 Air Force cook. I guess the Marines get their own food ;)
 
Well appearances CAN be decieving and a lot of SF operators are of about medium build. SF operators are triatheletes, not body builders, especially SEALs cause of thick body mass makes it much harder for them to successfully pass their swimming requirements, though I serisouly doubt any ex-SF will let themselves get serisouly out of weight..(feel free to prove me wrong)

Also, the USAF does have combat forces(Surprise! :eek: Funky eh?). They got Parajumpers and Combat Controllers. Got a friend who just made it past CCT basic training and now in advance training.

In other notes, like Topthis said, get a cheap SF trinket and pretend its something one gets upon completion of training and ask absurb questions. Always nice to make fun of posers. ;)
 
Service cooks... LOL A very close friend was a cook in the army, and his war stories are even better than mine most of the time---stationed in Germany, the boiler room below the mess was opperated by a German civilian, they fed him real good and in return had a consistant supply of great beer whenever...Private rooms off the kitchen and could come stumbling in at O-dark-thirty after a weekend pass and have ready access to a plate of eggs, kept a fifth of wisky in his wall locker for "inspection" and wouldn't you know it-passed every time without a worry... LOL Years ago though. One thing I learned was NEVER mess with the cooks--food was as good as gold, and when they controlled it you just don't mess with a good thing.

In the field we use to use a little (or big pinch) pinch of C-4 to heat rats or MRE's. One thing I saw proved the hard way was don't mix heat with pressure when dealing with C-4. A guy blew his foot off stamping out a piece after he warmed up his rat. OOPS!
 
Modern day Marine snipers and SEALs do not eat. Because the armed forces now has so many snipers and SEALs, they no longer need cooks.

How can so many miss the obvious? :rolleyes:

The true modern day elite forces are ombudsmen.
 
In addition to "snipers" (AF police special units now have them too), I know for a fact that the AF has, or had, cooks too. Some of them were pretty good at cooking food.
 
I knew this guy at Ft. Lewis. I met him when he was telling me and a buddy about his supercharged Pontiac LeMans, that would do 140 in a quarter mile in 6 seconds, with a special 70-gallon gas tank.

We overheard him telling his girlfriend about how he single handedly stopped an attack on the Ft. Lewis ASP, and got a Silver Star--but could not wear it because it was classified, dontcha know. :eek:

A true Ranger Navy SEEL from the Air Force Academy.
 
Lets research before jumping into something.....

I guess I could help distinguish the notion that the chair force only will fly and doesn't like bad weather or night duty.... ;) Very few pilots if compared to total population of this branch of service.

The modern day Security Police of the Air Force and it's National Guard and Reserve units are a little more trained than most civilian types are aware of.

The Security Police are also known now as the Defense Force. That means besides day to day LE duty. ABGD = Air Base Ground Defense...... That means if the Army and Marines are spread thin and a few bad folks want in, then it would be our job to stop them. I think you could find a lot of info if you wanted right here on the big wonderful web....

The Defense Force has Counter-snipers, K9 teams, Combat Arms Instructors and thousands of members world wide (Iraq and Afghanistan too), M16s, M203s, SAWs, and M9s just to name a few of the tools we use. We have been through numerous schools and training conducted by our branch and the other branches as well. I know a few guys that DID go to Ranger School and did wear the tab. When I was active duty in the 80's, the AF had GLCM Operations in Europe. That would be worth looking up as well. We didn't sit around and read Playboy and drink Miller Lite. Just rubs me wrong when someone that knows little about a given thing will write like he is Sam Webster.

If your statement about a young teen was telling you he was an AF Sniper you should start off by asking some easy questions. What type of rifle do you use for that stuff? Do you have an other job when your not out doing the snipe bit? You should be able to figure it out within one minute. ;)

As far as cooks....... Ours do a good job for us. They are in the Services Group. The same one that works at the chow hall today might be the counter receptionist at the base billet/motel....... They go to school for 5-6 weeks too. They also get a lot of on the job training.

Powder........not sure what your getting at other than reminding us how many folks say they are doing something and not doing anything...... I think that was your idea?

I think that today the branches work and fight better (together) than ever before in our nations history.... That is just my view on it.


Regards......Rojoe67
 
Because of the duties explained by RoJoe the USAF Security Police have been called Security Forces for several years. Depending on their assignments they're often the "infantry of the Air Force". They'll do patrols "outside the wire". I retired in 2000 as a USAF SF commander. I had guys I'd sent to Ranger school and they wore the tab. I'd put together a sniper team and they were sniper trained. I had guys in my Guard unit who were former Marines (including one old Grunt who'd been at Khe Shan), former Combat Controller, a honest-to-by-gawd Ranger who'd done 9 yrs with the Ranger Regiment and who'd done spec ops with Delta all around the world. We pounded the ground. After 9/11 my unit was deployed to 23 different countries in 18 months. I had a squad deployed to one sort of friendly country to do intel work with the alphabet agency in that region. In Afghanistan they hunted bad guys. The base would send up the Predator and my guys would go out to engage. My former Ranger and another former Ranger in my unit who got in after I retired were deployed on missions with Spec Ops folks in places where we haven't been. In Afghanistan another of my guys received the Bronze Star with V and another was submitted for the Silver Star but I haven't been in touch with the unit for a few months to see if the SS ever came thru.
I'm pretty proud of my guys. They answered the call and did what they signed on to do.
BTW, the USAF still has cooks.
 
As a retired, long-service officer approaching 60, I find this very amusing. Back in the ‘60s and early ‘70s, as a direct result of Vietnam, you could not find many folks who wanted to serve -- or were willing to admit that they had served. Now honorable military service is -- as it most certainly should be -- a mark of distinction. This leads to the “wannabees”, ranging from teenagers and to old men, all sporting insignia and memorabilia and all spouting lies.

Overall, this is a very good thing, not because any of us sanction phonies proclaiming military achievements, but because our society has FINALLY understood that the warriors -- whether they have served for one or thirty years -- are performing patriotic duties, frequently under adverse conditions. This means the old -- and terrible -- ethic of the Vietnam era, where soldiers were hated because the war was so unpopular, is gone . . . and that is excellent.
 
Absolutely no slam meant, and I can see where it can be interpreted as such. If I offended anyone, my sincere apologies.

The phrase I used at the end of the post was one coined by a servicemember I know very well; it's meant to describe all those who have "been there and done that"--in their own words and mind, that is. To hear these guys talk, they are the be all and end all of the uniformed services, have been to every school known to man (and some that aren't known yet), were "certified" bad-a***s, can shoot the eyeball out of a renegade protozoa at 1000 yards with a Daisy BB gun, and possess hand to hand skills that leave Kung Fu movie stars in adoration and awe.

I know one who supposedly was a SEAL--but who doesn't know how to disassemble an M16/AR15, and who can't hit the broadside of a barn at muzzle contact range with a shotgun loaded with #9 shot and a spreader choke.
 
There are still plenty of cooks in the army. You won't see them at the big furrs style mess halls, those are contractors. You see them in combat units. Almost every combat Battalion has their own mess hall and cooks. Although most food in the field is k-rats or MREs, we would still get fresh hot food delivered to us in mermite containers cooked by our unit cooks. This was in the 90s and I can confirm that it is still that way.

I knew many of the cooks that were in my unit they were all in the HHQ company.

And as for those that lie and claim to have been comandos, well they just have little d@cks.
 
I also heard about the C4 going off when stomped on when lit. In the first gulf war I saw a few Combat engineers using bits of it as heat tabs to warm their coffee and they told me that it would detinate that way.

It made sense and, coming from them, I believed it. Not sure if true though.
 
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