Rudy Guiliani ahead in Republican nomination race
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JuanCarlos
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The electoral college has its uses. A big one is limiting recounts in close races only to those states that were close. Another is requiring strong national support, instead of allowing regional voters to swing an election (say, with a popular ex-NYC mayor). It's not entirely bad. EDIT: Also limiting the impact of things like geographically limited election fraud. I'm sure there are other benefits as well.
I'd like to see the votes reapportioned to more closely match population As it is, small states are over represented due to the equal representation in the Senate. Strip even one of those "extra" votes away from each state, and George W. Bush never sits in the Oval Office regardless of which way Florida swings. I think it more than counterbalances the advantage larger states have due to the winner-take-all aspect.
+1, Democracy is a horible form of government that almost always goes bad and never works on a large scale. Thank goodness the US is a Constitutional Republic.
The idea that Democracy is great and wonderfull is a falacy that needs to be eliminated. In a Democracy, 51% of the people can, and will, take away the rights of the toher 49%.
The idea that Democracy is great and wonderfull is a falacy that needs to be eliminated. In a Democracy, 51% of the people can, and will, take away the rights of the toher 49%.
If you are a gun owner, how can you possibly entertain thoughts of supporting this guy for President of the US ???
New York City Sues Gun Industry
By Mayor Rudy Giuliani
One of the major goals of the suit was to push for "safer" guns, with such features as trigger locks and "personalization" measures that allow only authorized persons to fire the weapon, such as the internal lock on S&W products.
New York City Sues Gun Industry
By Mayor Rudy Giuliani
One of the major goals of the suit was to push for "safer" guns, with such features as trigger locks and "personalization" measures that allow only authorized persons to fire the weapon, such as the internal lock on S&W products.
The answer is very simple... because things will be 1000 times worse under hillary.
At his core, Rudy is a politician and a savy one at that. The issue of gun control has already come up. He's on record as saying that he doesn't believe the feds should be in the business of banning guns, rather it should be left up to the individual states. Whether you believe him or not, it is a fact that it is more likely that he will veto AWB 2 than Hillary/Obama. This may not be a huge possibility, but I'd rather have slim than none.
Furthermore, a vote for the executive is a vote for 2 branches of government. Another Ginsberg or 2 and liberals will simply be able to read the 2nd out of the constitution.
Ron Paul has zero chance of winning. I'll post the same wager here that I did on the other board. I have 5k that says Paul won't win the nomination, let alone the election. Strangely I've had no takers
A vote for an unelectable candidate is a wasted vote.
In the primaries, vote for who you want. In the general election, vote against the democrats. Anything else and you might as well hand over your guns.
At his core, Rudy is a politician and a savy one at that. The issue of gun control has already come up. He's on record as saying that he doesn't believe the feds should be in the business of banning guns, rather it should be left up to the individual states. Whether you believe him or not, it is a fact that it is more likely that he will veto AWB 2 than Hillary/Obama. This may not be a huge possibility, but I'd rather have slim than none.
Furthermore, a vote for the executive is a vote for 2 branches of government. Another Ginsberg or 2 and liberals will simply be able to read the 2nd out of the constitution.
Ron Paul has zero chance of winning. I'll post the same wager here that I did on the other board. I have 5k that says Paul won't win the nomination, let alone the election. Strangely I've had no takers
A vote for an unelectable candidate is a wasted vote. In the primaries, vote for who you want. In the general election, vote against the democrats. Anything else and you might as well hand over your guns.
You keep saying that as if it applies to everyone. It applies to swing states only. The R is going to win Oklahoma, and the D is going to win Massachusetts, no matter what. People in those states might as well vote for who they like.
I know online gambling was made illegal by the freedom loving Republicans, but I'll participate in a little illegal action. Stage, do you have $5,000 that says anyone besides a Republican will get the electoral votes in Oklahoma?
seeker_two
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STAGE 2 said:
Wrong is wrong....no matter how many exponents you tag on it.
The question isn't as much "Will Rudy push for more gun control?" as much as it is "Will he OPPOSE further gun control?" And, based on the interview he did with Hannity, he won't stand in the way of the gun-grabbers.
So, who will you vote for, mon ami' ?....the Nazi German candidate (Clinton/Obama) or the Vichy French candidate (Guiliani/McCain/Romney)?
Me....I'm waiting for the AMERICANS to show up....
But then, I believe Bush will go ahead and sign a new AWB/Brady+ bill just to take the issue off the table...and put the final nail in the elephant's coffin...
"People in those states might as well vote for who they like."
Isn't that what we should all be doing anyway?
IMO, voting for "the lesser of two evils", whether Dem or Rep; is a backwards ideology that ultimately does not serve our interests as a country; and only adds to the polarization of our nation.
Maybe if we voted for who we feel is qualified the best, we wouldnt be stuck in this "two-party" sytem.
Isn't that what we should all be doing anyway?
IMO, voting for "the lesser of two evils", whether Dem or Rep; is a backwards ideology that ultimately does not serve our interests as a country; and only adds to the polarization of our nation.
Maybe if we voted for who we feel is qualified the best, we wouldnt be stuck in this "two-party" sytem.
In that interview he stated that gun control should be a federal matter. That is some hope that he would veto. I also don't want hillary in control of judicial nominations. The courts are really our last hope of defending our gun rights. If she gets elected, she will have the ability to beat us before the fight even starts.