Peggy Noonan's got it right!!!
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That's one way to turn lemons into lemonade. Here's another way to look at it..
the republican frontrunner cannot even poll 60% on a pro-gun web forum against a candidate who has only been in the race for 7 days. Sad, really. Unless McCain denounces his liberalism, he is going to get trounced in November.
Frustrated and bitter... no. Flabbergasted that a pro-gun person would vote for McCain when they have a choice of a pro-gun conservative in Bob Barr... yes.
hkuser said:
Certainly better than if republicans keep nominating and voting for liberals. If you are going to vote for a liberal, why not go all the way and vote for Obama?
Wildalaska
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Yeah we heard that from the Paul crowd
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Yeah wait till the electorate takes a look at him LOL.....Mr. Hypocrisy
A fellow has many choices facing him in November 2008. He can
- vote for McCain
- vote for Obama
- vote for Barr
- vote for whoever the natural law party has on the ballot
- vote for the communist party candidate
- vote for the Green party candidate
- write in his own name on the ballot
- write in a fictitious name on the ballot
- not vote
- flood message boards with indignant pleas not to vote for McCain
- have a drink and watch the television
- cut the grass
The first two options are likely to affect the election in the manner the actor intends.
Each of the remaining options will have a similar electoral effect.
That's a picture of Justice Roberts who Bush nominated. How does that have anything to do with McCain nominating conservative justices?
And, don't tell me that McCain helped get Roberts confirmed because several democrats also voted for Roberts.
If you were a lawyer, I would say you have no case. Dismissed.
(By the way, from what I've seen... I really like Justice Roberts. It is unlikely McCain would ever nominate someone so conservative and who is a strict constructionist).
And, don't tell me that McCain helped get Roberts confirmed because several democrats also voted for Roberts.
If you were a lawyer, I would say you have no case. Dismissed.
(By the way, from what I've seen... I really like Justice Roberts. It is unlikely McCain would ever nominate someone so conservative and who is a strict constructionist).
And helped get confirmed as Chief Justice.
What do you think one often non-conservative president nominating a solidly conservative jurist as he promised would have to do with another such repub who has made similar commitments?
What could be the difference between McCain and Obama on this?
That is an egregious non-sequitur. That several dems would vote for an outstanding nominee like Roberts has exactly nothing to do with Bush nominating him.
Guess what?
On what basis do you entertain such confidence that McCain would be less bound by this commitment than GWB?
benign.neglect
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McCain needs to tell us what he means by "conservative". I have no doubt, by his definition, he would nominate a conservative. But coming from the author of Campaign Finance Reform, I have to seriously doubt whether or not his nominees would be strict constructionists.
We don't necessarily want "conservative" justices. What we want are strict constructionists. There is a difference. A conservative justice might push a conservative agenda, just like a liberal justice would push a liberal agenda. These are politically motivated agendas. A strict constructionist will interpret law based on the Constitution, not political agenda.
Don't let McCain, or anyone else, confuse you on this.
We don't want conservative justices any more than we want liberals. We want justices who will interpret the Constitution as it was intended.
We don't necessarily want "conservative" justices. What we want are strict constructionists. There is a difference. A conservative justice might push a conservative agenda, just like a liberal justice would push a liberal agenda. These are politically motivated agendas. A strict constructionist will interpret law based on the Constitution, not political agenda.
Don't let McCain, or anyone else, confuse you on this.
We don't want conservative justices any more than we want liberals. We want justices who will interpret the Constitution as it was intended.
As I remember, the gang of 14 which McCain is so proud of took the most conservative Bush justices off of the table and allowed only certain justices to be voted on. He effectively told Bush... don't send us your most conservative nominees. I think it was a stroke of pure genius (and I am no Bush fan) that Bush's team was able to get Roberts and Alito through the McCain mafia.
shortmagman
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My Lord what republican drivel! Vote Democratic and keep 12 billion dollars a month here instead of in Iraq. The choice is simple. Peace.
It's not that those issues aren't important so much as they're not sufficiently different on them for my tastes.
Pick any one of these issues and I'll highlight the details.
And I think you're correct on both counts; most people don't care and that has the effect of isolating one from the political process.
Wildalaska
Moderator
Anonymous sources who can't remember exactly what was said...
OK I'll buy that
You know, I read on the net somewhere, can't remember exactly where or what was said, but my recollection is that Bob Barr said that if he is elected President, he will work to reinstitute slavery......
O wait, thats just an anonymous rumour and not credible, carry on.
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