marine6680
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So far I have not seen evidence of a major change actually in units in customer hands.
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P320 Subcompact 9mm range results and ammo selections. Pictorial review.
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The reset is as long as a glock.
Feels shorter to me.
So far I have not seen evidence of a major change actually in units in customer hands.
Exactly. I want to make sure we don't confuse folks into thinking there was some kind of redesign due to a design failure. We're talking about the differences between initial prototypes and what's out there now.
runningbear
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So what was posted with the the pictures were just prototypes,not any P320 that was bought by anyone. Is this correct?
The one with the different trigger bar with disconnect at the rear? Yes as far as we know those were prototypes that haven't appeared in the wild so far.So what was posted with the the pictures were just prototypes,not any P320 that was bought by anyone. Is this correct?
runningbear
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I am very happy to read this.
marine6680
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I have seen minor changes, things that improve assembly and disassembly of the FCU, but not actually change the function.
One pin that holds the striker block lever into the sear block has been made longer to slide through the outer frame as well, making it easier to put together and take apart...
The trigger bar is either an early prototype and the images are still used in the website marketing stuff... Or they plan on changing to it.
Seeing it on an early pre-production version for Shot show when they announced it, makes me think it isn't an upcoming change...
I am keeping an eye out though.
One pin that holds the striker block lever into the sear block has been made longer to slide through the outer frame as well, making it easier to put together and take apart...
The trigger bar is either an early prototype and the images are still used in the website marketing stuff... Or they plan on changing to it.
Seeing it on an early pre-production version for Shot show when they announced it, makes me think it isn't an upcoming change...
I am keeping an eye out though.
wild cat mccane
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I counter tested a VP9, PPQ, Glock 34, and a couple P320s.
Without a doubt, the P320 had longer (longest? questionable with the G34) and DEFIANTLY the heaviest trigger.
All of those tested have smooth triggers. P320 had the heaviest trigger.
I still don't get it. The modularity makes no fiscal sense. Those guns with removable backstraps are included. With the P320 you have to spend a 1/10 of the gun's original prices to change.
I imagine you will lose more when selling an x-change kit, grips, etc than selling a full handgun of any variety.
Without a doubt, the P320 had longer (longest? questionable with the G34) and DEFIANTLY the heaviest trigger.
All of those tested have smooth triggers. P320 had the heaviest trigger.
I still don't get it. The modularity makes no fiscal sense. Those guns with removable backstraps are included. With the P320 you have to spend a 1/10 of the gun's original prices to change.
I imagine you will lose more when selling an x-change kit, grips, etc than selling a full handgun of any variety.
Shooting a gun is testing it. Using it in a store isn't.I counter tested a VP9, PPQ, Glock 34, and a couple P320s.
Without a doubt, the P320 had longer (longest? questionable with the G34) and DEFIANTLY the heaviest trigger.
All of those tested have smooth triggers. P320 had the heaviest trigger.
I still don't get it. The modularity makes no fiscal sense. Those guns with removable backstraps are included. With the P320 you have to spend a 1/10 of the gun's original prices to change.
I imagine you will lose more when selling an x-change kit, grips, etc than selling a full handgun of any variety.
If you don't get it and don't like it then don't buy it. Others have and will.
Uncle Malice
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Without a doubt, the P320 had longer (longest? questionable with the G34) and DEFIANTLY the heaviest trigger.
Sounds to me like someone lost the trigger stop pin on whatever gun you played with.
The P320 has less trigger travel than all 3 of those. It's close with the VP9 and significantly less than the PPQ.
Yes, it is heavier out of the box to compensate for not having the spot trigger tab safety. I sent my compact to Robert Burke and he brought the pull down to clean 5lbs even. Could have gone lower but I didn't want to. He also reduced trigger slack take up to nearly nothing. It's a beautiful trigger now on what was already a great trigger.
You're not the first I've seen mention a long travel on the trigger. The trigger stop pin can fall out of people are pulling the FCU out and playing with it at the shop. I had it happen on mind early on. If I wouldn't have noticed it, I can see how that might make a difference. The gun will still function fine, but it will have quite a bit more travel.
Hey man what did he do to reduce the weight? All I want is to get mine down to 6 lbs. from the 7 lbs. it is now. I do notice my VP9 breaking in (more in feel than weight) but this has never moved an ounce from day one. Very consistent at least.Sounds to me like someone lost the trigger stop pin on whatever gun you played with.
The P320 has less trigger travel than all 3 of those. It's close with the VP9 and significantly less than the PPQ.
Yes, it is heavier out of the box to compensate for not having the spot trigger tab safety. I sent my compact to Robert Burke and he brought the pull down to clean 5lbs even. Could have gone lower but I didn't want to. He also reduced trigger slack take up to nearly nothing. It's a beautiful trigger now on what was already a great trigger.
You're not the first I've seen mention a long travel on the trigger. The trigger stop pin can fall out of people are pulling the FCU out and playing with it at the shop. I had it happen on mind early on. If I wouldn't have noticed it, I can see how that might make a difference. The gun will still function fine, but it will have quite a bit more travel.
I own them all except the VP9 but have 500+ rounds through the VP9 as a RO.
The P320's trigger isn't even close to Glock in about every aspect. They are night and day different. Even my modded ghost triggers on my Glock don't break as clean as the P320. My P320 SC breaks at about 5.5lbs measured in the middle. My PPQ was great out of the box but the trigger broke in and got even cleaner after 500 rounds. The P320 will do the same. I have talked to my buddy that was at the Shot Show and handled a broke in P320 after 1000+ rounds and he said it was the best trigger he has ever felt and he is a VP9 owner and mega fan.
I almost lost mine durring its first cleaning. I can see many new owners loosing this pin if they are not carful. I even went back to my LGS and took apart their only P320C in stock and showed them to be careful when demonstrating. I also did ALOT of holster cross referencing for fit.
The P320's trigger isn't even close to Glock in about every aspect. They are night and day different. Even my modded ghost triggers on my Glock don't break as clean as the P320. My P320 SC breaks at about 5.5lbs measured in the middle. My PPQ was great out of the box but the trigger broke in and got even cleaner after 500 rounds. The P320 will do the same. I have talked to my buddy that was at the Shot Show and handled a broke in P320 after 1000+ rounds and he said it was the best trigger he has ever felt and he is a VP9 owner and mega fan.
I almost lost mine durring its first cleaning. I can see many new owners loosing this pin if they are not carful. I even went back to my LGS and took apart their only P320C in stock and showed them to be careful when demonstrating. I also did ALOT of holster cross referencing for fit.
You're not the first I've seen mention a long travel on the trigger. The trigger stop pin can fall out of people are pulling the FCU out and playing with it at the shop. I had it happen on mind early on. If I wouldn't have noticed it,
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marine6680
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I have heard of people loosing the pin...
Sig may need to mention that in the manual or something.
The reset is very short on mine. Total movement from stop to reset is 1/8 in.
The trigger stops about 1/4 in from the back of the trigger guard. If the trigger stop pin is missing, then it will move farther to the rear., and make reset longer than it should be.
Sig may need to mention that in the manual or something.
The reset is very short on mine. Total movement from stop to reset is 1/8 in.
The trigger stops about 1/4 in from the back of the trigger guard. If the trigger stop pin is missing, then it will move farther to the rear., and make reset longer than it should be.
wild cat mccane
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Wait,
Can someone publish where the P320 has a shorter trigger travel reset than the P320? I counter tested 3 and they all were more like a glock than the VP9/PPQ.
I am not buying it. The P320 had noticeable trigger movement to reset. MUCH more than the PPQ. And the trigger was MUCH heavier than the PPQ.
This is very curious. A Sigma/SD has a 7lb trigger and is actually quite smooth...
Can someone publish where the P320 has a shorter trigger travel reset than the P320? I counter tested 3 and they all were more like a glock than the VP9/PPQ.
I am not buying it. The P320 had noticeable trigger movement to reset. MUCH more than the PPQ. And the trigger was MUCH heavier than the PPQ.
This is very curious. A Sigma/SD has a 7lb trigger and is actually quite smooth...
What do you want from us exactly? People gave you their personal experience which you have since discounted with your own personal experience.
It is in no way similar to a Sigma besides the fact that it is striker fired. Just stop.
A Sigma/SD has a 7lb trigger and is actually quite smooth...
It is in no way similar to a Sigma besides the fact that it is striker fired. Just stop.
My PPQ was great out of the box but the trigger broke in and got even cleaner after 500 rounds. The P320 will do the same. I have talked to my buddy that was at the Shot Show and handled a broke in P320 after 1000+ rounds and he said it was the best trigger he has ever felt and he is a VP9 owner and mega fan.
In 1000 rds my P320 hasn't changed remotely. What it was day one is what it is now, and honestly I'm okay with that. I have had other triggers where spring weights will lessen or surfaces smooth with contact, but I haven't had that experience here.
runningbear
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TunnelRat: Did you buy your P320, as a target shooting handgun?
TunnelRat: Did you buy your P320, as a target shooting handgun?
I did not no. I bought it on a whim frankly cause I just love handguns (I've owned ~70). I consider it a really excellent defensive pistol and I've been surprised by its performance. I have had zero issues with it, it shoots great, and it fits my hand well. I'd have no issue trusting my life with it.
the truth about guns has a good article, and puts the trigger on par with ppq, although maybe not quite as nice. his, after 500 rounds, seems toaverage under a six pound pull
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...view-sig-sauer-p320-compact-carry-nitron-9mm/
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...view-sig-sauer-p320-compact-carry-nitron-9mm/
marine6680
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Trigger reset is more than the PPQ... But not as long as a Glock. It's in between, it's about 1/8 inch as I said.
I pulled the trigger stop pin and it added a 1/16th to the reset, not a lot but it was there.
The PPQ is a fine pistol... So is the VP9... And the 320 is right there with them. I would give the PPQ the win between them on trigger, but that does not mean the 320 has a bad trigger.
While I don't practice shooting to reset, I do like having a good reset that is not overly long... Just because pistols that reset at or near full forward position feel strange... Like the trigger isn't working or something. I don't know it just feels odd.
The 320 is a good pistol that is accurate and easy shooting.
The modularity appeals to agencies that issue pistols, and to new shooters who are more likely to get caught in hype over such things... I could see it being popular with people limited on ability to purchase "more" pistols due to licensing or regulation restraints as well.
I pulled the trigger stop pin and it added a 1/16th to the reset, not a lot but it was there.
The PPQ is a fine pistol... So is the VP9... And the 320 is right there with them. I would give the PPQ the win between them on trigger, but that does not mean the 320 has a bad trigger.
While I don't practice shooting to reset, I do like having a good reset that is not overly long... Just because pistols that reset at or near full forward position feel strange... Like the trigger isn't working or something. I don't know it just feels odd.
The 320 is a good pistol that is accurate and easy shooting.
The modularity appeals to agencies that issue pistols, and to new shooters who are more likely to get caught in hype over such things... I could see it being popular with people limited on ability to purchase "more" pistols due to licensing or regulation restraints as well.
I totally agree. There is no bad choice between the three. Life is good and we finally have reach a more refined evolution of the polymer handgun.
The PPQ is a fine pistol... So is the VP9... And the 320 is right there with them. I would give the PPQ the win between them on trigger, but that does not mean the 320 has a bad trigger.