JuanCarlos
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That is an unrealistic scenario, it is not the norm and it is definitely not the case.
You're right, I'm tired of paying to feed, house and give health care to criminals. This problem is created primarily by one group of people illegal Mexican immigrants. It's not racist, it factual. I have no sympathy or empathy for illegal aliens of any nation.
Are you really suggesting there aren't pleny of white, English-speaking illegals running around? Because there are. I've known a few. Generally from Europe. Heck, we even had one show up in basic training when I joined the Army...from eastern Europe, didn't even have a green card. His recruiter had pretty much just fudged his paperwork.
The drill sergeants worked overtime to get it sorted out though, and took care of him. Then again, he was white, spoke English, and looked like a bodybuilder (scored almost 300 on his first diagnostic PT test).
I've also run into pleny of legal non-Hispanic immigrants who don't speak English at a functional level, if at all.
You guys want to make it about race because it makes you feel good that you're doing something for an "impoverished" people. I want those "impoverished" people to come here legally, if they can't do that I don't want them here. It's not racist, it's common sense.
Except that it isn't about them not being able to do that; it's about us (or more to the point you) telling them they can't do that. It's about a bunch of people whose ancestors (generally) came over under a whole different system changing that system (and now wanting to keep it that way) so that others can't do the same.
Or is there a lot of support for quadrupling the quota that I'm just not seeing?
So at least say it right. You want those "impoverished" people to come here legally, and if you won't let them then you don't want them here. Doesn't sound nearly as generous, does it.
Would you tolerate them breaking into your house and living their? That is essentially what they are doing when they break into our country.
No, it's not. My house is small enough that even one extra person would significantly decrease the amount of space and privacy available to me. Ever been to Montana? This country is large enough and empty enough that a hundred million people could move up here without being the equivalent of one extra person in my house.
Special treatment means harassing schools into paying for extra staff to educate their kids even though they pay no taxes and therefore do not pay those teachers salary.
How are your schools funded? I thought up here it was largely through property taxes. Which, unless those immigrants live in a cardboard box they are paying. If they own, directly...if they rent, indirectly through their landlord.
You really don't like anything about whites or their culture. You mentioned the "white culture" 3 different times, I believe that could be construed as a racist statement!!!
Possibly. Of course, it could also be because due to A) whites being a majority and B) me being white it's easier for me to distinguish between different subsets of white culture than culture of other races. I'm sure there are monumental differences between southern black culture and northeastern black culture...but because both are so far from my own they look largely alike to me.
It's basic psychology.
JC your reading ability isn't very good. I didn't say English only or spanish only signs. What I was referring to were the Spanish signs with English sub-titles. BTW the official language of Pakistan is English and it required to be taught in school.
My reading ability is excellent. If a sign has it's message printed in English, it is in English. Regardless of what language comes first or is larger. What's the matter, does the poor English-speaking guy feel marginalized if another language comes first? Cry me a river.
Go spend a year in a real third-world country and talk to me. You should be thanking God every day you get to be in America and read those English subtitles at Wal-Mart.
To be honest, my opinion is that a majority of people who are most vocal about illegals, including a lot of you on this forum, are simply racist. You hide behind "they're criminals" because it's something that seems logical and is pretty hard to counter (legality being entirely black and white)...but at the same time you're not okay with allowing more in legally. What it's really about is the fact that allowing a wave of immigrants from Mexico stands a very real chance of making whites a minority and will most definitely make them a minority in a large region of the country...and it scares the crap out of you. A lot of people used to being the dominant culture and/or dominant race are not happy about the idea of no longer holding that spot. That's why this "wave" seems so much scarier and different than previous ones.
That, or it really is just history repeating itself. Aside from the fact that immigration law has changed (thus adding your convenient "but it's illegal" argument), the rhetoric used now is little different from the rhetoric used for every previous wave.
So yeah, I'm a liberal politically correct idiot...ya'll are a bunch of reactionary right-wing racists. I don't even care if you have a Hispanic wife...lots of racists back in the day like to get black tail, too. Name calling is fun, no?
Except WildAlaska...he seems to be a genuinely reasonable guy who simply has a greater-than-average respect for the law. I say that from both his posts here and his posts I've seen elsewhere. I often disagree with him, but can always understand where he comes from and respect it.
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