Does the no safety thing put anyone else off buying a glock ?

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Yes if they had a manual safety I would buy one, also there is no way to compare glock trigger to a revolver trigger even with a NY spring because they still have a totally different pull.
 
Attention All Revolver Owners

ALL revolvers are inherently dangerous because of NO SAFETY.

Yes, they could discharge suddenly and without warning! Please send then to me for proper disposal.
 
No, I am not put off by the lack of an external safety on the Glock, any more than I was with the Kahr or am with the SIG. I'm not concerned with the lack of an external safety on any well designed firearm, such as a S&W revolver. I would be interested to see a percentage of the people who have experienced negligent discharges between both groups of firearms (with/without external safeties) and then by gun. Even then, the numbers wouldn't be correct, because not everybody would report them to an agency tallying the numbers. I would imagine that the percentage of people (NOT just 1911 or gun enthusiasts but every person that's handled the weapon) experiencing negligent discharges with 1911-style pistols can't be that much higher or lower than those experienced with Glocks.

The only negligent discharge I've had was with a pistol that had an external safety, and it went a long way towards reinforcing my responsible handling habits.

I think it was a automobile safety engineer that once said, "we can design the safest and most reliable seatbelt in the world, and the customer will try to wear it around his neck."

jm
 
Sorry folks, but I am one of those folks who would enjoy a manual safety on a Glock pistol. None of my revolvers have a safety, but I prefer a manual safety on my autoloaders. Hate me if you want, but it's my preference. I have looked into the aftermarket safeties for Glocks; I like the idea. You don't have to get one on yours, but allow me to have one on mine if I like. I think they should be made like Ruger autoloaders; available with or without a safety.
 
I believe the issue surrounds the light trigger pull on the Glock and not the availability of a safety.

Consider walking around with a revolver, hammer back and cocked.

Or any hammer fired pistol with the hammer locked back and no safety.

Don't touch the trigger and you will be fine. :eek:

We talk about ND's as being a nusiance just to ourselves, but keep in mind they can also result in serious jail time and civil suits if you accidently shoot someone else.

I, for one, pefer the extra margin of safety of either a heavier DA trigger, or at least the addition of a grip safety.

It's more than just my own personal safety that I need to be concerned with.
 
When I bought my sw99, I was a little worried about the lack of a safety because i was afraid of a foreign object (draw string ect.) pulling the trigger. But that was with a cheap holster. A good holster is very important. I also carry a taurus PT145 (non pro) which has a long dao trigger and an external safety. So if I find myself in a situation where I think I'd need a safety, I can flip it on. But I have'nt yet. Bottom line, keep your finger out of the trigger guard and get a good holster.
 
In this case the operator was not, IMO, being overly careless and this is the kind of thing that could easily happen if one's attention slips just for a bit.
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Letting one's attention slip just for a bit while handling a firearm is negligence.

I carry Glocks and / or 1911's. Both are only as safe as the operator.
 
you know you can always rack a round into the chamber right? just leave er unloaded then when time comes rack the slide back. Even though its always nice to have one in the whole ready to go for a "quick draw", if you dont think that the glocks trigger safety doesnt do it then thats another option.
 
You could buy an XD. It's got the grip safety also and I think they are real similar in looks and function to the glock. I'd buy an XD before a Glock any day.
 
Now, using a proper holster lowers the chance of getting something in the trigger guard down to something vanishingly small, but bad things happen. So, I just don't feel all warm and fuzzy about carrying a Glock.
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Huh?

So how would a Glock go off if it is in a holster that covers the trigger guard?
 
As a previous Glock owner I have to be counted in the camp that prefers safeties, or decockers at the very least. Its not so much a mechanical or technical issue, it is a matter of PERSONAL COMFORT. At the very least I want a really long, deliberate first trigger pull (like a revolver) in order to discharge my weapon. I also want to have the OPTION of engaging a manual safety when I unholster my weapon (I carry with the safety off). I understand the concept of having a "safety between the ears", but I personally do not feel comfortable carrying a loaded weapon which is for all intents and purposes cocked with a round in the chamber inside my wasteband. The Glock safety system does seem interesting, but was unable to convince me. In my case it is just a matter of personal preference and what I feel comfortable carrying.
 
Buzz:

I think your concern is admirable, but you may be over-reacting. Neither of my pistols, a Khar P9 and an HK P2000 have external safties and I have never felt unsafe.

If you are carrying for personal protection, I suggest you watch some of those videos of robberies where the good guy, in his excitement, was unable to fire because of his saftey.

Personally, when the SHTF, I want the odds stacked in my favor as much as possible. When I draw my pistol, I want it to fire when I pull the trigger. Now.

Get the Glock and carry it in a good holster that covers the trigger completely. You'll feel very comfortabe very quickly.

Kowboy
 
The lack of a safety alone doesn't bother me, but the light trigger pull accompanied by the lack of a safety does give me pause. I know that the best safety is decent gun-handling, that your finger shouldn't even be on the trigger until you're ready to pull it. Still, I just don't feel comfortable without one of those safety systems. I was trained on a Sig P229 with the DA/SA action serving as a safeguard, and I much prefer that.

And that's why my choice in a polymer gun is a Walther P99 AS.
 
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061122-105203-6336r

Man shot by wife says shooting accidental
PACHECO, Calif., Nov. 22 (UPI) -- A Pacheco, Calif., man who was shot in the head by his wife says the gun -- not his wife -- is to blame because it did not have a safety device.

Norman Kamp said the incident resulted from his wife, Jan Kamp, handling the .357 Magnum while he sat 20 feet away watching football, the Contra Costa (Calif.) Times reported Wednesday.

Police said the bullet passed through Kamp's chair and inflicted a superficial head wound.

"The whole thing was an accident," Kamp said. "She was in another room looking at the gun when it went off. She couldn't believe that she shot me."

Kamp said his wife, who was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, was on pain medication for arthritis and had been drinking alcohol.

Prosecutors lowered the charges against Jan Kamp to assault with a deadly weapon, but her husband protested her continued incarceration.

"We are the tightest couple. Neither of us have a record of domestic violence. I just can't believe police are holding her for this," he said.
 
Revolvers don't have a safty, ruger has their block that wont allow it to fire unless the trigger is kept depressed.Still, that didnt stop me from getting a GP100 a few years back.It didnt stop me from getting my G17 neither.

Brownelles catalog has a manual safty one can add to a glock if that is their preferance,Glock did make a bunch of pistols with a additional manual safty for a an order awhile back as well but I like mine the way it is.
 
I carried one for some time at work without incident. Including the time a truck hit the outside of a garage door that I was on the inside of and threw me 30-40 feet across the shop with a cartidge chambered. I have heard of "drop test" being performed with loaded Glocks. The only accidental discharges I remember were in the begining when Glocks were put back into the plasic cases loaded and the trigger safety was disengaged by the peg in the case that contacted the trigger (a questionable design of a case here).

Like the previous posts say "keep your finger off the trigger". I always enjoyed the fact that I would not have to fumble with a safety to make my Glock go BANG.
 
I had never thought of Glock as an ugly gun - until I saw that pic above of a Glock with a safety. The thought is frightening!

I keep my Glocks loaded, in holster which covers the trigger. When they come out of the holster they are ready to go.
 
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.ph...2-105203-6336r

Man shot by wife says shooting accidental
PACHECO, Calif., Nov. 22 (UPI) -- A Pacheco, Calif., man who was shot in the head by his wife says the gun -- not his wife -- is to blame because it did not have a safety device.

Norman Kamp said the incident resulted from his wife, Jan Kamp, handling the .357 Magnum while he sat 20 feet away watching football, the Contra Costa (Calif.) Times reported Wednesday.

Police said the bullet passed through Kamp's chair and inflicted a superficial head wound.

"The whole thing was an accident," Kamp said. "She was in another room looking at the gun when it went off. She couldn't believe that she shot me."

Kamp said his wife, who was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, was on pain medication for arthritis and had been drinking alcohol.

Prosecutors lowered the charges against Jan Kamp to assault with a deadly weapon, but her husband protested her continued incarceration.

"We are the tightest couple. Neither of us have a record of domestic violence. I just can't believe police are holding her for this," he said.
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too bad in that article they didn't mention that most likely she was never taught that 1. all guns are considered loaded at all times 2. never point a gun at something you aren't willing to destroy and 3. keep your damn finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot the thing you want to destroy. I am a proud glock owner and have never felt it could somehow shoot in the holster, and it can't possiblly go off when my finger is not even close to the trigger. Accidents with guns are operator error and not the actual gun error plain and simple. I am against gun control but even an hour or two of gun safety should be mandatory before allowing a person to buy their first weapon. too many idiots give guns a bad name.
 
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