Do y'all carry in your house?
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chaplain tom
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I truly understand your point, but the war zone keeps expanding first of all, and second, some (good people mind you) are simply not in a position TO move out of the war zone. To paraphrase Mr. Hogwallup from "Oh Brother Where Art Though" - "They got this recession on." So to R-U-N-N-O-F-T is not an option for many at this time.
Hello, I"d like to apologize
about my ignorant remark about
you guys being paranoid and carrying
at home.Thinking on it a bit recalling
all the home invasions, people getting
sliced and diced by invaders who just want
to experience someone die-ing. Even in little
out of the way towns. I'm gonna
start carrying now.Sorry for the remarks.
I opened my mouth before engaging my brain.
Ron
about my ignorant remark about
you guys being paranoid and carrying
at home.Thinking on it a bit recalling
all the home invasions, people getting
sliced and diced by invaders who just want
to experience someone die-ing. Even in little
out of the way towns. I'm gonna
start carrying now.Sorry for the remarks.
I opened my mouth before engaging my brain.
Ron
I see that Dr. on TV, his family was killed by 2 guys, set fire to his little girls while he was tied up after being beaten. He was asked if he could forgive, he said he cant forgive pure evil, that is what these folks are pure evil. Best be prepared for when they come to visit you, that is my state of mind these days. I wouldnt want to live if I could have done anything to stop any form of attack in my house.
I would rather have a fond memory of the time bad guys got whupped than bad guys raped and killed my family.
Ever see a crack baby? there are lots of them out there right now.
They hate others. Are you ready for them?
I would rather have a fond memory of the time bad guys got whupped than bad guys raped and killed my family.
Ever see a crack baby? there are lots of them out there right now.
They hate others. Are you ready for them?
Believe me when I say this, if I needed to carry in my own home then I would not live there. It's up to me to be a good father and raise my kids in a healthy environment and I most certainly would NOT subject them to a ghetto or African civil war country type of environment. Some people may not have the means to move, but I would find a way. I live in a quiet middle class neighborhood, my guns are readily accessible but most certainly not needed to carry them.
Like the one the doctor and his family from this article lived in?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101108/ap_on_re_us/us_home_invasion
The two home invaders subdued the family with a baseball bat and a BB gun. Pretty clear that if one of the Petits had been carrying at home it would have never happened.
The problem with crime is that while it obviously tends to be more concentrated in some areas, there are no areas that are immune to violent crime. Is it likely that someone living in a quiet middle/upper class neighborhood would need to carry a gun at home? Not at all. Then again it's not likely that any given person will win the lottery either--the odds are more than a million to one. But you know what? People win the lottery all the time because millions of people play.
Crime is like a reverse lottery that EVERYONE plays whether they want to or not. You can reduce your odds of "winning" but you can't opt out entirely.
Do you NEED to carry a gun at home? The odds are that you won't need to but there's no way to say for sure you won't. More to the point, a perceptive person reading about what happened to the Petit family will realize that it's not really about the odds. It's about the stakes.
Believe me when I say this, as long as bad guys have access to cars, buses, bicycles and legs, there's no such thing as a truly safe neighborhood.
Some are more dangerous than others, but none are safe.
See this: http://www.crimereports.com
pax
I live in a quiet suburban neighborhood. A middle-class neighborhood that was farmland less than 2 years before I moved in.
Not too long after we moved in my next door neighbor was awakened by a knock on the door. Since it was late at night and he wasn't expecting anyone he just peeked out a window with a view of the door rather than answering the door.
There was a stranger on the doorstep and, again, since it was late and he wasn't expecting anyone my neighbor just kept watching, unobserved, to see what would happen.
After waiting a few moments the man left, and as he left, his accomplice, who up until that point had been hiding out of sight behind the corner of the house near the front door, joined him.
Glenn E. Meyer
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We live in a nice one also. Same experiences. But to each his own, it's your life. Probably will never use the fire extinguisher or 2nd floor ladder either.
Stevie-Ray
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This is getting tiresome. Who are you trying to convince? Us, or yourself?Yeah, if it was that bad here, I'd move. Oh, and if my wife had wheels, she'd be a Ferrari.
I guarantee you that when they start making fire extinguishers as small and light as a compact carry pistol then I will start looking for a fire extinguisher holster.
I addressed this already.
No one is claiming that the odds of having a home invasion are high. I'd say that even in a bad neighborhood the odds are very good that you'll never be the target of a home invasion. But if gambling were ONLY about the odds then people would never play the lottery. People don't play the lottery because the odds are good that they'll win, they play because even though the odds of winning are very minute,very very rare, the payoff is HUGE!
Similarly, it doesn't make sense to carry at home based ONLY on the odds. It's a different story when one considers the stakes. What is the cost of gambling and losing?
Ok, time for the standard disclaimer for this type of threads.
No matter who you are, you divide all people into only 3 groups when it comes to preparedness.
- Oblivious sheeple who are less prepared than you are.
- Prudent, well adjusted people who prepare to exactly the same extent that you do.
- Paranoid lunatics who are more prepared than you are.
Similarly, it's not constructive to make fun of people who don't prepare quite as much as you do. Keep in mind that many millions of Americans will live their entire lives and never need to use a gun in self-defense.
These threads aren't intended to help us stratify ourselves, to create divisions. The important thing to take away from these threads is a widened perspective.
OldMarksman
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Consider that you will not know whether you "have to carry in your own home" unless an eventuality arises when you are carrying, or it arises when you are not. In the case of the matter, you may or may not be able to talk about it later.
"War zone"? In the suburban municipality adjacent to mine, the crime rate is very low indeed. During the week of Thanksgiving, an intruder entered an occupied home in a "safe" neighborhood and stabbed the resident with a knife; the resident survived but required emergency heart surgery. About ten days later, an intruder broke into a house nearby, but left when the resident confronted him; it was found that he had escaped from a federal facility about fifty miles away.
Criminals are mobile, like everyone else.
CapeCodShooter
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JohnKSa, your last two posts were profiund, even poetic.
I live in a very upscale area. The minimum home price is around seven figures. MY GF, who lives with me, used to laugh at me because I carry a snubby at home. She said it was like living with Wyatt Earp. Then a neighbor not too far from me suffered a terrible beating from a group that invaded his home. Needless to say, she doesn't kid me anymore. Well, actually, she does, but we both know that she's happy that I'm ready, willing and able to protect her.
I have a friend who has a loaded gun in every room, but who doesn't carry around the house. Neither one of us is paranoid, just well prepared.
I live in a very upscale area. The minimum home price is around seven figures. MY GF, who lives with me, used to laugh at me because I carry a snubby at home. She said it was like living with Wyatt Earp. Then a neighbor not too far from me suffered a terrible beating from a group that invaded his home. Needless to say, she doesn't kid me anymore. Well, actually, she does, but we both know that she's happy that I'm ready, willing and able to protect her.
I have a friend who has a loaded gun in every room, but who doesn't carry around the house. Neither one of us is paranoid, just well prepared.
MikeNice81
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I may have posted it in this thread, or I may not have. I know I have told a story that goes with that goes with that point on this site.
My dad was walking my grandmother's dog in the front yard. It was probably 10:00 in the evening. A minivan stopped in the middle of the road and two guys jumped out. They yelled "this is a robbery." My dad pulled out his gun and said "I don't think so." The guys turned tale and jumped back in the van.
The neighborhood has several power company "security" lights in people's yard. So, it is relatively well lighted. The neighborhood is also considerred calm and quiet. None of that mattered though because these guys could use an automobile to target people where ever they wanted.
Later the paper had a story about a group of guys that had been robbing people around town. It was the same guys using the same van. They had struck in several neighborhoods. They had even put one older gentleman in the hospital.
Their automobile had allowed them to strike at will and get across town before the cops could respond. They hit poor neighborhoods, middle class neighborhoods, and even a country club neighborhood with houses that start at 3/4s of a million.