Sorry Hornetguy for thinking that this is a tough crowd. On this point you are 100% correct. This is one of the most professional forums you can be on and the two weapons are not similar and will never be similar.
There are too many stories of gangs of thugs attacking folks, and multiple assailant break-ins to think that more than one attacker is not a likelihood.
Obviously an HK sub-gun would be better than a 38 special, but I am looking at what most normal folks will have at hand.
Yes, I busted out laughing at that one! I have my popcorn and subscription to this thread.....................................This thread does make me chuckle, sorry.
''Professional thugs?'' Is there a school somewhere for this? Bobbing and weaving counting rounds? This is good stuff!!
Bottom line, the semi holds more rounds. That's the only advantage the semi has over a revolver. The revolver does everything else as well or better than the semi.
The story of Mr. Goetz aside I figure if I am attacked by more than two or three determined and semi-competent individuals I lack the skill and ability necessary to overcome the situation in an outcome favorable to me by the use of force. Would I try? Sure as a last resort desperate measures are required. But I have no visions of accomplishing the feat Mr. Goetz did.
hornet guy said:I REALLY like my mod 64 Smith, and was thinking about the whole auto vs revolver thing..
I have a Canik I REALLY like my mod 64 Smith, and was thinking about the whole auto vs revolver thing..
I have a Canik TP9 SA also, so I did a short comparison..
Fully loaded (17 rounds, 147 gr hp) the Canik actually weighs 3 oz less than my Mod 64 fully loaded with 125 gr loads.
The Smith at its widest point is 1.45 inches, and the Canik is 1.275 inches.
The Smith is a 4" barrel, and the Canik is 4.7"...
With the grips side by side, the Smith barrel is 2" longer than the Canik.
So, it seems that, apples to apples, the auto gives three times the firepower in a slightly more compact package. One more mag for the auto vs 5 speedloaders for the revolver.
This, of course doesn't take aesthetics into account..
I didn't even try to compare my PT 111 with 11 rounds in a mag and a 3.2" barrel..
It appears that for "firepower" the autos win, easily.. also, so I did a short comparison..
Fully loaded (17 rounds, 147 gr hp) the Canik actually weighs 3 oz less than my Mod 64 fully loaded with 125 gr loads.
The Smith at its widest point is 1.45 inches, and the Canik is 1.275 inches.
The Smith is a 4" barrel, and the Canik is 4.7"...
With the grips side by side, the Smith barrel is 2" longer than the Canik.
So, it seems that, apples to apples, the auto gives three times the firepower in a slightly more compact package. One more mag for the auto vs 5 speedloaders for the revolver.
This, of course doesn't take aesthetics into account..
I didn't even try to compare my PT 111 with 11 rounds in a mag and a 3.2" barrel..
It appears that for "firepower" the autos win, easily..
Sorry & beg to differ, but I'd take a nice 4" K-frame S&W like your Model 64 or my Model 15, ANY DAY over either a Canik TP9 SA or a PT 111. Those S&W K-frames will totally outshoot those other guns! I'll grant you that you can load more rounds into the semiautos, but you will need less rounds to hit your target with a S&W Model 15 or 64! My Model 14 with a 6" barrel improves my argument even more!
I was born "steely eyed." Are you picking on me? Well, are you!
fastbolt: said:Bottom line? If I had to go back to active full-time duty in LE, I'd not mind at all being told I was going to have to carry a S&W revolver, even if it were chambered in only .38 S&W Spl (presuming the use of one or another good quality JHP or LHP +P). Even better if it were .357 Magnum, though. I really liked my .357's back in the revolver days, and tried to wear out several of them.