Was scanning a Gun Magazine in the Grocery store (Magazine as in publication-not examining my gun at the market) and thought I saw where Smith? was coming out with a new 327 revolver. I thought that must be a mistake as the folks on TFL already declared the 327 a dead caliber ?
.327 Federal Club thread
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FrankenMauser
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7.62x54R (M38) and 7.7x58mm Jap (Type 99).
Daggitt said
" Was scanning a Gun Magazine in the Grocery store (Magazine as in publication-not examining my gun at the market) and thought I saw where Smith? was coming out with a new 327 revolver. I thought that must be a mistake as the folks on TFL already declared the 327 a dead caliber ?"
+1 I saw the same. Don't know how it is different from the current offering. Four or so years ago, they came out with the pricey 4" (?) comp'd (ported) Performance Shop gun. Then two years ago--what I thought this new one in the magazine was--and like the new one I believe a 632 Pro series gun, a 2+ snubby non-ported. This new one sports some great looking Trijcon night sights and Pach looking grips and satin stainless finish...and "fluted" (scalloped?) barrel, also like the two year old gun IIRC.. Wishful thinking, but in the pics I couldn't detect the dastardly little lock key hole. Nice piece. All I know is I want one!
BillCA, help us out here!
" Was scanning a Gun Magazine in the Grocery store (Magazine as in publication-not examining my gun at the market) and thought I saw where Smith? was coming out with a new 327 revolver. I thought that must be a mistake as the folks on TFL already declared the 327 a dead caliber ?"
+1 I saw the same. Don't know how it is different from the current offering. Four or so years ago, they came out with the pricey 4" (?) comp'd (ported) Performance Shop gun. Then two years ago--what I thought this new one in the magazine was--and like the new one I believe a 632 Pro series gun, a 2+ snubby non-ported. This new one sports some great looking Trijcon night sights and Pach looking grips and satin stainless finish...and "fluted" (scalloped?) barrel, also like the two year old gun IIRC.. Wishful thinking, but in the pics I couldn't detect the dastardly little lock key hole. Nice piece. All I know is I want one!
BillCA, help us out here!
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Glenn E. Meyer
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Got the stainless version of the PP - very sweet gun. I would like to see lightweight J frame or LCR. Be still my wallet.
bluetopper
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I'm still waiting on a K framed size 327 with a 6" barrel and adjustable sights.
FrankenMauser
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You'll have to find your way into some Sierra 90 gr JHCs, first. Good luck.
Sierra 90gr JHC's are hard to come by.
But you know what's a helluva lot harder to come by?!
Smith & Wesson Model 16-4's. Hammer It drops those photos and his idea often... but those guns are as scarce as hen's teeth. Produced by Smith & Wesson for what... a year? Year and a half? Something tells me that they didn't produce .32 H&R Magnum k-frames with full underlug barrels in ridiculous amounts like the oodles of model 10's that flowed from every crack in the walls of that facility on the east coast.
I'd love to do exactly what he did and own the same thing. Six inch barrel, what a gorgeous revolver and you can bet the farm that nobody else on the range will have anything like THAT on any range day.
But it's a pipe dream.
But you know what's a helluva lot harder to come by?!
Smith & Wesson Model 16-4's. Hammer It drops those photos and his idea often... but those guns are as scarce as hen's teeth. Produced by Smith & Wesson for what... a year? Year and a half? Something tells me that they didn't produce .32 H&R Magnum k-frames with full underlug barrels in ridiculous amounts like the oodles of model 10's that flowed from every crack in the walls of that facility on the east coast.
I'd love to do exactly what he did and own the same thing. Six inch barrel, what a gorgeous revolver and you can bet the farm that nobody else on the range will have anything like THAT on any range day.
But it's a pipe dream.
Hello Sevens
They are Not as Rare as some would think as made about 8800 of the model 16-4's from 1989-1992 time span. Mine is a first year gun being a 1989. and I bought it new in Box about Eight years ago for $600.00. which at that time was plenty for one but to get one now they average a Grand. Not bad considering they are getting that for these slab sided barrel wonder's with the fiber optics pasted on the barrels.
These Model 16-4's do pop up on ocasion but if you plan to own one they average a Grand now. Sierra sports Master hollow point bullets are a hard find. I managed to come across Eight Boxes of them in a Local gun shop here about Two years ago. They were new old stock and just sitting there so the shop owner decided to discount them at $7.00 Per 50 round box and home they came. 
I went on Vacation Last fall and stopped in a Cabellas in Lower Pennsylvania. They had Twelve boxes of Hornady 100 Grain XTP Bullets in .32 caliber so I bought all Twelve boxes. I stopped at another huge gun shop called Fur, Fish & Game in Middle Ohio and they had another dozen boxes of the Hornady XTP's so I tapped into their entire supply of them as well. These items are out there you just have to look and be willing to pay when they show up, No Pipe dreams, just good hunting Here is a model 16-4 with a 4" Tube on it right now for sale for $1100.00 and I do know where an Unfired 8-3/8" Barrel model is sitting at this point and time as well....Keep the Faith they do surface...
http://www.gunsinternational.com/SMITH-WESSON-MODEL-16-4.cfm?gun_id=100221777
Hey you dang sniper, that's Goschinski's Fin, Feather & Fur in Ashland, Ohio, and that's my store! Well, 'bout 65 miles from me, it's where I get all my powder, all my rimfire and it's where I get all my .312" Hornady XTP slugs!
No worries, though, they've kept stock of these bullets... somehow... and I have (more than once) cleared them out of 100 grain XTP's in exactly the same fashion.
Small world!
(they haven't ever had the Sierra 90gr JHC, though, not since the Barackolypse)
Geez Hammer...I've enjoyed your pics and commentary over the years...get me in the will please...you've got some great guns...and that, my friend, is one fine target...I've got a 16-4 with a 4" bbl that I've considered reboring to the longer .327 Federal round...who did the work for you..reboring the cylinder that is? Nice post> Rodfac
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Hello Seven's
My bad on the stores actual name, but once I hit the basement and saw the boat load of Hornady XTP's they had in stock I cleaned them out as I had the store clerk check and he brought out the balance of them they had in the store room....
We ate at the Perkins next to it and stopped off at grandpa's cheese Barn for a load of Great cheese before carrying on with our trip, Glad I did not have to hit a scale check with all the extra lead I had purchased on the trip I surely would have been over loaded....mightyoakwildlife
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Looong Time Readin'
(Woof!)
I've just spent the last two afternoons reading through the full twenty-four-plus pages of this entire thread! My wife now has confirmed my dedication to insanity, but it's justifiable. I have arrived at a final decision.
As a satisfied owner of an SP101 in it's .357/3" guise, ALL of you folks (including the nay-sayers) have justified my NEED for an almost identical companion piece, chambered in .327!
My only anticipated dislike is that crude looking rear sight. Any idea if I can remove enough metal to install a "proper" adjustable sight? If not, I'd even be likely to settle for a drift-adjustable dovetail version. Obviously, since I don't have one yet, I'm not so sure the factory offering will suit me. Any guesses?
(Woof!)
I've just spent the last two afternoons reading through the full twenty-four-plus pages of this entire thread! My wife now has confirmed my dedication to insanity, but it's justifiable. I have arrived at a final decision.
As a satisfied owner of an SP101 in it's .357/3" guise, ALL of you folks (including the nay-sayers) have justified my NEED for an almost identical companion piece, chambered in .327!
My only anticipated dislike is that crude looking rear sight. Any idea if I can remove enough metal to install a "proper" adjustable sight? If not, I'd even be likely to settle for a drift-adjustable dovetail version. Obviously, since I don't have one yet, I'm not so sure the factory offering will suit me. Any guesses?
I think you'd be talking about some real metal-munching to do that. Possible? I am not the guy to ask!
Have you considered the GP-100? Better rear sight, more barrel, more shots. Not a concealed carry gun, of course. But this round l-o-v-e-s barrel length and it builds horsepower with every half inch you give it.
mightyoakwildlife
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SP101 vs. GP100
Yup, I've given it quite a bit of thought. That's been my only stumbling block over the last couple days.
A few years back, I had the KGP161, and it was one of the more accurate out of the box .357s I've ever owned. Because of it's weight and overall length, I rarely carried it. I generally favor +/- 4" barrels on my revolvers. The six-incher was too inconvenient for in/out of the truck, etc. Rarely used, I sold it for the same money I paid.
My wife has recently re-discovered her fondness for shooting, but she leans more toward the 25 to 30 ounce weight revolvers.
As I was reading through this thread yesterday, I kept an open tab with Ruger's Spec. Sheet for the SP. Frequently tabbing back to it in an effort to make-up my mind, she asked if I was afraid she might steal "the .38" from me, for good. When I told her that I was looking at another one, in a smaller caliber that could also fire a beefier round for defense, I got a smile and a nice hot cup of tea.
This afternoon when she got home from work, I told my bride that I've decided to buy one. She told me that I might just get to keep the .357, if the "new one" can be loaded down just a bit more mildly than the .38s.
Could be that she'll find no fault with the factory rear sight. Time will tell. Now, the search begins....
Yup, I've given it quite a bit of thought. That's been my only stumbling block over the last couple days.
A few years back, I had the KGP161, and it was one of the more accurate out of the box .357s I've ever owned. Because of it's weight and overall length, I rarely carried it. I generally favor +/- 4" barrels on my revolvers. The six-incher was too inconvenient for in/out of the truck, etc. Rarely used, I sold it for the same money I paid.
My wife has recently re-discovered her fondness for shooting, but she leans more toward the 25 to 30 ounce weight revolvers.
As I was reading through this thread yesterday, I kept an open tab with Ruger's Spec. Sheet for the SP. Frequently tabbing back to it in an effort to make-up my mind, she asked if I was afraid she might steal "the .38" from me, for good. When I told her that I was looking at another one, in a smaller caliber that could also fire a beefier round for defense, I got a smile and a nice hot cup of tea.
This afternoon when she got home from work, I told my bride that I've decided to buy one. She told me that I might just get to keep the .357, if the "new one" can be loaded down just a bit more mildly than the .38s.
Could be that she'll find no fault with the factory rear sight. Time will tell. Now, the search begins....