Why don't I want a Mosin Nagant?

I never really had an interest in them, until just recently, when the gun-buying bug bit me. Having 3 kids, a wife, and a house note, the Mosin fit into our budget. The cheap ammo helps as well.

As for looks, it's not a pretty rifle by any mean, nor was it designed to be. I'm okay with that. I consider myself lucky to be one of those who has no desire to sporterize it with an archangel stock, although I did just stumble upon a different company offering laminate stocks for them...:rolleyes:

Your distaste for Mosins is about like my distaste for Glocks. I know they are perfectly capable firearms, I just have no desire to own one (at least not right now!)
 
Neighbor's son has a Mosin. I guess it's a carbine. He'll come over and shoot from time to time. Monster muzzle blast. He loves that old gun, but from the way he shoots it he'll do just as well with a bayonet if he has to feed himself.

I've shot it, but just can't gather up enough enthusiasm to own one. Mighty crude rifle, but God only knows how many people were killed with them in WWII, so you can't say it wasn't effective. I wouldn't mind having a good quality shootable 1903 Springfield, but that's about it.
 
You're not wrong. Some of us just succumbed to the temptation of a cheap, powerful rifle.

I'm a history buff and I told myself that's why I wanted the 91/30. And yes, it's sort of cool knowing that the rifle has been through so many wars in so many countries. But if people are honest, they'll tell you they just nabbed it because it's so cheap. We'd all rather have a Garand or Lee-Enfield, right? But I wasn't able to find any of those for $130.

To its credit, the dang thing has been accurate and reliable. But it's nearly as tall as me and weighs a ton. I'm sure I could take a deer with it, but then I'd have to drag the deer AND the rifle back to the truck!
 
"...comparable to GI 30-06 power..." Far closer to .303 British than .30 M2.
It's highly unlikely any currently available milsurp ever saw combat of any kind at any time. They are neat to shoot. Even though I have zero interest in Russian kit.
"...They're almost always..." None of 'em were made or designed for any of that. Poor ballistics is just wrong.
 
Ah, because you don't want a low cost, easy to find relatively cheap ammo for rifle that is just fun to shoot with no frills, or pretentious claims.
The one most important part of owning a M/N, or any other milsurp for that matter is Keep your stinking Bubba hands off of it! It's never going to be a Remington, Winchester, Browning, Ruger, CZ, or any other sporting rifle. It is what it is, a WWII, or older military surplus rifle.
Shoot it, enjoy it, clean it, repeat!:D
 
You mean you don't a rifle that fought against its self? And won?

(Google the Winter War)

Required history minor joke aside, I understand what you're saying.

I've looked at a score of Mosins over the last few years, in dozens of variants, with dozens of markings.

And even though I could bore the hell out of you discussing the Eastern Front (my poor girlfriend moved in right as I was taking a graduate course concerning the Eastern Front), when I look at a Mosin, my inner gun guy just sort of shrugs and and tells me how I there's nothing I can do with the 7.62x54R that my .30-06 won't do.
 
maybe you flunked the test and if you think that test was hard, just wait untill you take the carcano test. eastbank.
 
I’ll start by saying I own several and love them for what they are but this may tell the tale

Mosin Nagant defined in Urban Dictionary

Mosin-Nagant -The Mosin-nagant is an old school bolt action rifle from Russia. Originally designed by a drunk Russian engineer and an even more drunk Belgian gunsmith, who drew up blueprints on napkins in the back of a pub somewhere in Siberia in a vodka-induced stupor. The Mosin-nagant fires the 7.62x54r cartridge, which can kill a polar bear at a thousand yards and keep going right through the tree he was standing in front of. The Mosin-nagant was used by the Russians in both world wars, so it's killed more Germans than collisions on the autobahn and under-cooked sauerkraut combined. Surplus Mosins can be found at gunshops in the States for like a hundred bucks on sale, and ammo is cheap surplus, so this is what real men shoot who don't want to drop $1299.99 on an AR-15 which fires a .22 round and that's made out of recycled milk jugs and Legos. Many of them come with a bayonet that's roughly the size of the sword William Wallace used in Braveheart. In the absence of gun oil, you can clean a Mosin by ******* down the barrel and wiping the bolt off with a dirty rag that you found on the floor in a Grease Monkey. Try that with a rifle that was designed less than 50 years ago.


Joe: " I need a rifle that is ten feet long and fires anti-tank rounds, but Ive only got 200 dollars!"

Ivan: "Amerikan comrade, you need mosin-nagant . Spend 100 on the rifle, fifty on case of ammo, use rest for vodka!"

In Soviet Russia, rifle fire you!!!
 
One thing I don't care to do in discussion forums is to go peeing in threads where other people really love their stuff. I truly understand what it's like to love different stuff and when you get deep in to any hobby, you can make passionate arguments to support (or defeat!) many different ideas.

For example, I have a lot of fun with a Ruger GP-100 in .327 Federal Magnum but it wouldn't take me long to find a hundred different people with fine arguments about WHY it's something they'd never buy or why YOU should not bother with it. Some of them understand why I like to... others think I'm nuts for wasting my time with it.

With that said, I'm a card-carrying Mosin-Nagant hater. Even still, I can find a few uses for them.

I had heard about someone that took a shipping crate and built a glass-top coffee table with a Mosin-Nagant and accoutrements on display under the glass. I think this is a fantastic idea and if I sat in a room with this thing as the coffee table, I'm certain that I would be amongst like-minded folks.

I also think it would be AWESOME if someone built a log cabin using Mosin-Nagant rifles! :p

Bottom line? You started a thread that basically says to me "I'm not feeling it, are you the same way?!" My answer is YES! Big time. If you gave me one for *FREE* with the only stipulation being that I could not sell it or give it away, I would NOT ACCEPT IT.

I fully support other folks love & enjoyment for them, and GUN people are my kinda people. But for me, I wouldn't spend a minute of my life goofing with one.
 
What's a Mosin-Nugent?
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A rare, and quite valuable collector prize. Being a Mosin Nagant that was mis marked by a drunk Russian gunsmith. Kinda like those double stamped coins, or postage stamps printed upside down!
But they aren't as tasty as the Mosin Nougat that are delicious when covered with chocolate, and peanuts.:D
 
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The bolt.
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From what I understand about 90% of the 'sticky bolt' Mosins are due to the Cosmoline not being cleaned or cleaned properly/fully. I mean it's not going to be smooth as silk even when clean, but the ol' 'You need a 2x4 to move the bolt' is only because how the rifles were stored (with cosmoline) rather than the design of the bolt and often gets blown out of proportion. I've seen some very smooth and fast cycling MN's.
 
From what I understand about 90% of the 'sticky bolt' Mosins are due to the Cosmoline not being cleaned or cleaned properly/fully. I mean it's not going to be smooth as silk even when clean, but the ol' 'You need a 2x4 to move the bolt' is only because how the rifles were stored (with cosmoline) rather than the design of the bolt and often gets blown out of proportion. I've seen some very smooth and fast cycling MN's.
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That, and rough camming surfaces, 5 minutes with the dremel and a little polishing compound and my gun's bolt runs smooth.
 
The Mosin series of rifles, are the most frequently seen mill-surp rifles on our 100 yard outdoor range {AGC at Marriottsville}. They are also a good beginner rifle, for those who are interested in shooting centerfire --- and can help make a better rifleman out of one who practices enough --- and able to afford the cheap mil-surp 7.62x54R round.

I have 4: A Finnish M91, two iron sighted Izzy's, and a authentic 1943 Izzy sniper rifle {whose bolt is as smooth as butter}; though the PU 3.5X scope does not have a matching serial number.
 
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Personally I've never wanted a Mosin either, nor most other surplus rifles, however my father owned several different mausers, Enfields and springfields bought cheap and sold later to others. He was never able to find the one he wanted though, I found it a year after he passed and would have paid the somewhat high price if I had needed to sell a kidney, Rock Island Arsenal 1903 A3, still in full issued condition. He could recite the serial number of the one he carried in WWII during the Aleutian campaign. I fully suspect he would have looked it over carefully, told a lot of stories and put it up on a rack on the wall and never fired it. While I don't appreciate the older firearms there are those that do and more power to them, I never thought I wanted an AR either until I fired one and then bought one. And if you don't think there is a market for other old issue items go to a gun show that specializes in that stuff and its amazing what folks will pay for something like a 1911 WWII leather holster, or KABAR combat knife from that era.
 
You will want one in 10 years when they are all bought up and going for $500 on Gun Broker and 7.62x54mmR ammo is going for over $1.
 
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