What The Heck Is This?

[Jim Watson]

This is another case of what you see is what you get. Savage made the Model 24 "over and under" combination gun for a long time. A co-worker had one that was a WW II jungle survival gun from planes flying The Hump across Burma and North China. Most, like yours, were .22 + .410 but there were some in larger calibers and gauges.

 

[redlantrn]

Gun #27

Thanks Jim.
Gun #27 Says St Etienne on the side, mle 1892. Barrel says MA s1893. Its very heavy for such a small gun (37.5 "). SN's are all different.
Thanks!

 

[Chipperman]

That's a French 1892/27 Berthier Musketoon, should be chambered in 8mm Lebel. Appears to be in original condition, but hard to tell from the pic.

 

[redlantrn]

Gun #28

Thanks Chipperman. Gun #28 is another Hakim rifle. The "action cover" and front sight are different than the first one I posted. Would this just mean different years of manufacture? The bayonette in third pic was in case with gun. Is this the correct bayonette?
thanks

 

[SDC]

Well, kind-of, sort-of. Picture 28 is of a Ljungman AG42B, the Swedish precursor to the Hakim, and chambered for the 6.5x55mm Swedish cartridge. For all intents and purposes, the rifles work the same. Yes, that's the proper bayonet for the rifle.

 

[redlantrn]

Thanks!

I want to thank everyone here who has helped to educate me in the history/origin of these guns. I decided not to post the remaining 10 or so guns, as most of them are either duplicate (and in some cases triplicates), or are more modern, easy to identify guns.

I want to give a special thanks to Jim Watson for his in numerous, in depth responses, and I officially take back anything negative I have ever said about Alabama

 

[dutchy]

Man,
Did I ever enjoy reading this post.
Thanks for posting, both questions as well as answers.
Now how do we get more people to take the trouble to put up such posts?

 

[redlantrn]

Thanks Dutchy. when I first laid all the guns out on the floor, I felt overwhelmingly confused, my mindset pretty much mirroring the topic of this thread. I knew I had to educate myself to a degree. If I get some nudges, I'd be happy to post the rest of the collection..
Thanks!

 

[TEDDY]

clips

what ever you want to call them SARCO has them
the carcanos
the bertier
the argentian 7.65 X 53 is GRAF at $13 a box of 20 brand is PRIVI PARTISIAN
also carcano
I know as I have bought at both places.
when grampa?sporterized them they were worth just what he paid there was no collector value.I know because I had some
DCM 1913 springfield= $10/15
DCM 1917 enfield=$7.50
store carcano= $9.00
store #1 enfield=$10
Grants #5=$13 I bought close out 10 for $130 on Grants credit card.

 

[redlantrn]

Officially the last one..

Ok, this gun really brought a smile to my face more than the other 39. Took me a minute to figure it out....

 

[Jim Watson]

Lacking any knowledge of the markings, I have to call this one a Communist Chinese air rifle.

 

[redlantrn]

Way to go Jim! 100% correct. It's a communist made side cocking, spring actuated air rifle. Makes almost as much noise as a .22!