What is the most overpriced handgun?

Some handguns are high-priced because there is supposedly more that goes into them in the way of craftsmanship and labor to produce better triggers and a higher level of inherent accuracy and other things as well. But if you don't appreciate those things, which may not be there anyway, then it become a bad value for you and overpriced. The same thing can be said for other things, like engraving or a special non-factory finish.

Again, not about handguns, but sometimes expensive things can drop like a rock in value because of some little detail like ammunition availability, assuming there isn't the collector interest to maintain the value. Supposedly those fine British double rifles could be had fairly cheaply when the ammunition became scarce. But fairly cheaply is a relative term and anyway, I never saw one. Among handguns, apparently there is enough collector interest to maintain fairly good prices on Walthers pistols chambered in 9mm Ultra and probably also the French 7.65 long automatic pistols. But something in, say, 9mm Federal or 9mm Bergmann might be a hard sell.
 
HK

Glock 19, Beretta Storm, Ruger SC9, Walther P99, Beretta 92 FS, Springfield XDM, (Sig 226 to a lesser extent) - all make a pistol that rivals the HK but are significantly less money. HK P30 is a very nice gun, just not worth the mark up in my opinion.
 
There is quality in things you cant see. Colt's frames and slides are forged, not cast. Ruger cast's everything, thats how they keep costs down. Production costs are more than the sum of the raw matieral; methods, cost of skilled vs unskilled labor, etcAnother value in Colt is the name recognition. Like it or not, Colt will always carry a higher resale value than a comperable production gun.
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Ruger does not cast "everything", barrels, and bushing are machined from bar stock, some internal parts are MIM. Colt uses MIM in some of its internal parts.
Re: skilled vs. unskilled labor. Colt's "labor" cannot be more skilled than Ruger's. Ruger's actually work out of the box. Ruger's quality control is more skilled than Colt's.
The point is, Colts cost more because of the brand name not the quality of the shipped product. And, resale value means nothing until you sell it, and when more people realize how trouble free Rugers are compared to Colts, the resale value difference between the two may very well change in the future.
If a person wants an overpriced gun that may or may not work, buy a Colt.
If a person wants a better quality, less expensive piece that works out of the box, buy a Ruger.
 
HK. They know they're overpriced. You know it. But they can charge it because they have a ton of contracts. I say the hi-power is a bit high, too. However, there's a reason most plastic is cheaper. Making all that stuff out of metal with all those itty bitty parts is expensive.
 
Mark 23

I don't think it has any MIM parts <wink> but I'm going to go with the Hk Mark 23 as the most overpriced. I still want one though...

How on Earth do so many threads on here turn into MIM rants?
 
i think most people sell used gun overpriced. i've seen a used glock go for $700. just because the guy put tritium sights on it a few years back.

new glocks go for $500 used glocks go for $350 sure add ons give you a little value but DONT expect to reciprocate all your investment value on a common gun.

NOTE: im using THIS glock as an example.

but i, as a 1911 guy, would say that "high end" 1911 are over priced. my value set is based on:
1- function/reliability

thats right one value set on price. i do not want to pay $3000 for a 1911 that is so "tight" in fit that it jams every other round. i'd rather have a sloppy loose 1911 that works EVERY time. shooting .5" groups is great but at the expense of reliability? no thanks! ill take 3" groups from a gun that works every time anyday.

MIM or tool steel? sure i'd like more tool steel if i could, but i have yet to break a MIM part, out of its normal wear limit.

nothing is worth more than you can sell it for. like its said.... a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. CASH IN HAND SPEAKS!!!

EDIT: i should mention that the above philosophy is for my "duty" weapons... collectables are in a different category all together. and of course that price begins with current trade/market norms
 
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As long as someone is willing to pay a given price for a product, it is not overpriced - just because a particular person can't afford it (the usual group complaining) or a particular person just won't spend the money for it, doesn't mean it is overpriced

Personally, I see no value in an AR over $500, but then I see no value in a SxS under $3,000. Those are the values to me - doesn't mean either one is over or underpriced - it is the value to ME, personally, that counts
 
I agree with oneounceload completely. If you are willing to pay for it then it is not over priced, I make 8 bucks a hour and want a scar 17s and plan to get one sooner or later ( probably later :) and those things are a shade under 3k, is it worth it? I hope so, but who am I to say how much they should sell them for :)
 
Officer Letter head purchase;
Sig P229 $735.00
Glock $399.00
M&P $400.00
SR9 no special price, but under $500

Sig Sauer takes the prize for most $. I'd rather pay alittle more and buy two Glocks.
 
Someone needs to give it a break with his "nothing is overpriced" mantra:mad: Everything is overpriced if I think it is. And it is worthless if I think it is; your opinion is just that. If you refuse to see the understanding of question the other posters see, it does not mean that their opinion is any less valid than yours. I can find a fool every day that I can convince by less that honest marketing tactics to pay way more than something is worth. Yet if this happens, does it really means that its not overpriced? Or does it just mean I have no worth? You must be a supply side economist:(

Aren't we just trying to have a little fun here:confused:
 
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There is NO such thing as over-priced or gouging or similar connotations as long as someone willingly pays the price. Just because YOU might not have the means to afford something doesn't make it overpriced, just expensive

In that aspect, Korth comes to mind
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Well said. What people do with their money is their business.
 
I wanted a seacamp 380 but I didn't want to pay over a thousand bucks(I believe it was actually about $1200). I guess every year this person bought three and then held on to them until the money was coughed up(eventually by someone). I can't knock him for making a buck in this day in age or any other, but it was tough not to get the "by-hand" piece. anyways, I almost went with the desert magnum 380 mousegun instead, but ended up just deciding on the S&W 2 1/8" 649. I bought my mousegun eventually to have a BUG when I wanted and just because I wanted one: 180something bucks for the 38 cobra derringer...well that was more like it!
 
Hook686, you are exactly right. If something is truly overpriced in a free market, it won't stay around very long. A few suckers will buy one but after a while the word will get out, sales will tank, and the product will be discontinued or the company will fold.

I don't have a H&K or a Sig, but those I've known that have them are very pleased with the quality. I don't know about recent Colt's but if the quality has tanked so will sales and they will either have to regain they're market share with better quality or fold. S&W was sold a few times and sales tanked in part to quality issues but they seem to have gotten better.

Some people like cheap and cheap stuff will still sell with quality issues.

A while back I heard about a company making a $5k M1911. It would have to be one F'ing good gun to sell enough to keep the manufacturer in business.

Tony
 
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