What handgun caliber would you rather never hear about again?

.45 ACP ...those damn 1911s are just too good, take away the bullets and all the 1911 owners will be FORCED to buy Glocks or switch to 9mm. <evil grin>

Nah really I don't mind. Even the odd stuff like .45 GAP and .327 Mag.. I agree with greasemonkey, variety keeps it interesting, and leads to innovation (along with a lot of failure).

Gets me to thinking, a hardbound, comprehensive "history of ammunition" would be interesting, something that focused on the development of various calibers, the impetus behind each new design, the failures and the successes. Include some high quality paper with great photos, drawings, and some historical test data and stories.

Yeah that photo isn't quite right! .600 NEM is 3" long, 0.6" dia.
 
Yeah that photo isn't quite right! .600 NEM is 3" long, 0.6" dia.
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Maybe it is a child with hairy hands holding it, or a guy with very tiny hands.

And as far a the comment about getting beat with a bat or being shot by some caliber, I would defiantly rather get shot at range by a 25 acp than get beat with a bat.
 
I never said i would rather get beat with a bat....what i said was i would rather go up against a guy with a bat than any certain caliber.....If your gonna quote me do it right......or don't do it at all.

And what i meant by that was i stand a better chance of dis arming or winning a fight as apposed to being shot from a distance with any caliber....with a bat you must be close for it to be of any use.....with a gun...well you get the picture....
 
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.25; .32acp; .380acp and maybe .22LR.

Well, .22LR is good for practice. I really wish that .380 would dissapear from the face of the earth - then, maybe gun manufacturers would figure out how to make more 9mm handguns the size of small .380's. So far as I can tell, only Detonics and Rohrbaugh. Not only do I forget how to spell Rohrbaugh and have no idea how to pronounce it - from what I've read, don't bother shooting more than 5 rounds in one - as Mr. Rohrbaugh shouts "THEY'RE NOT RANGE TOYS".
 
I never quoted you, but I will now.

I cant think of a single caliber.....Any caliber is better than a sharp stick.
So those of you who think any one caliber is useless......Try being shot by one.
Then get on here and try to regurgitate your stupidity....if you can.

I would rather go up against a guy with a bat then a gun of any caliber.
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I would rather have a bat or sharp stick, than a 25 acp pistol. I would also rather go up against someone with a 25 acp pistol, rather than a bat or a sharp stick.

25 acp is a pretty useless caliber, unless you are going to stick the damn thing up someones nose and pull the trigger. By that point, it would be better to have a knife or bat.
 
gotta be the .45ACP since its outdated
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Outdated? Really? Men have been killed for saying much less! :)

The .45ACP is just as relevant today as it has always been. This calibers continued popularity confirms this.

The only reason the .45ACP may have lost ground is due to its weight and/or lack of great capacity. Of course, in terms of capacity anyway, the likes of the XD45 (13 rounds) have countered this to a degree.

Say what you want, but [primarily] outside of the capacity issue, the .45ACP (JHP) still holds strong as one of the top "man stopping"/personal defense loads available....without needing to resort to "+P" or "+P+" loads. Does this mean it is the most practical? Not necessarily, I will admit. However, all things considered, this is still an extremely effective and sublime, large caliber load. To me, calling the .45ACP "outdated" is similar to calling Da Vinci, Michelangelo or Rembrandt "outdated." Just my .02 cents.
 
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Ok, guys... I'm gonna put this out... ok? All handgun 'chamberings" that come up (be it .327, .40sw, .45GAP) are intended to offer the most power possible out of the smallest platform possible. You know? Which is inline with what we all want out of a pistol (I mean revolvers and semis alike). The only place that "useless" chamberings arise is in rifles for me, since most people don't need those crazy 500 yard bear stopping (that's an intentional exaggeration) that you'll find in rifle rounds. I, personally, welcome all those ridiculous pistol rounds that pop up.

PS. .40 S&W ain't a chambering that'll go away, that's here to stay.

Also, Insight-Neo: I understand what you're saying: .45ACP seems dead. But I think cost has more to do with it. I'd have a P220 over a P6(P225) if .45acp was cheaper. But, yeah, the XD45 is probably one of th best .45"tupperware" guns ever, next to the M&P and Glock .45's.
 
Also, Insight-Neo: I understand what you're saying: .45ACP seems dead. But I think cost has more to do with it. I'd have a P220 over a P6(P225) if .45acp was cheaper. But, yeah, the XD45 is probably one of th best .45"tupperware" guns ever, next to the M&P and Glock .45's.
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It is interesting that .45ACP ammo seems to be among the hardest to find, despite its cost.

Regardless, I love this caliber above all others. I just wish I could find the ammo I seek! Until then, my XD40 will have to do.
 
Neo, .45ACP would be my first choice 4 years ago, but right now: 9mm is the cheapest (although hardest to find) ammo for any type of pistol. For that reason I went with 9mm or anything else. If .45 wasn't $30-40 a box or 50 target rounds, I'd'a bought a 1911 flat out. You know what I mean, though.
 
Neo, .45ACP would be my first choice 4 years ago, but right now: 9mm is the cheapest (although hardest to find) ammo for any type of pistol. For that reason I went with 9mm or anything else. If .45 wasn't $30-40 a box or 50 target rounds, I'd'a bought a 1911 flat out. You know what I mean, though.
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I do understand. Ammo availability (combined with cost) is one of the main reasons I went with the .40 S&W load. I just got lucky in that the XD40 was such a great gun. In terms of 9mm, only within the last 2 months or so has the local Wal-Mart been stocked up (with good FMJ); ditto for my favorite online source for defense JHP loads. But, as much as I admire the 9mm, it is not my ideal choice overall, so I generally am not all that bothered with the lack of availability within this particular caliber....so far anyway.

Now, the .45ACP (45 Auto)...I cant find this stuff anywhere except online. Even then, rarely can I find a decent JHP load. So, when I am able to find what I want, it is worth the price..to me at least.

The .40 S&W, however, has never been a problem either way.

But, yeah, I know what you mean.
 
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Yea .40 S&W is here to stay, like it or not.

The .357 Sig...I at one point thought this was a real oddball, useless round however...one slightly lesser-known thing about this round is that due to it's "necking down", it feeds extremely reliably, especially through a Sig pistol. I don't have experience with this round on a Glock, but I can't imagine there are many if any feed problems there either.

I am guessing that people don't like the round because essentially what you're doing is taking a 9mm round, which has somewhat of a reputation of over-penetration, and putting even more heat behind it.
 
When I saw my first revolver chambered in this cartridge,,,
My first reaction was one word,,,
Why?
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Me too.... .17 ??? Why?

I never understood why this was introduced, or why anyone would want to go to it. A .17 varmit gun? Why not stick to the tried-and-true .22 long for your varmit needs? Or upgrade to the .22 WMR?

I'd be most interested in a discussion on why the .17 was even introduced? :confused:
 
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The Taurus Judge is a triumph of "seems like a good idea" over ballistic reality. Being fired from a revolver with a short rifled barrel has a profoundly negative effect on the performance of a shotgun shell, no matter how appealing the idea may seem on paper.

In the end you have your choice of a poor performing shotgun or an overweight, oversized 45 Colt.
 
You can hate on the .40SW as much as you like, but face it...that cartridge is hear to stay, and I happen to love it. Now for the ones I could do without, you can take the .327 Mag and the .45GAP, put them in a bag together and toss them both in the river.
 
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