Been there done that, eh? Retired I guess since you are using that. By been there done that do you mean that you hunted goblins with #4 birdshot/dove shot/turkey shot? I doubt it.
Those of us who are still being there and doing that, and all the really smart and experience guys who are doing the testing, making the policies, and doing the training for those of us who are still being there and doing that disagree with you and your birdshot unanimously.
Did 2 Nam tours courtesy of a Democratic administration, Later coached an Army Reserve pistol team and taught marksmanship to police and the sheriff's department.
I lived on the wrong side of the tracks a few times, jnot much choice at the time. I Have had my apartment busted into 3 times, first time I wasn't home and I didn't have a gun, second time had a 22 revolver, last time was armed with a 38 super and San Diego police thought it was a fine gun. That was in 1970 I think maybe 71, its been awhile.
Drunks tried to break in through my patio door in Bolingbrook Illinois, never underestimate the power of a barking 9 month old pup and a 45 in the hands of a perturbed wife to sober a couple of guys up.
I did have a goblin target recently discarded with a hole just big enough to stick my thumb through that was fired at with #4 shot from 24' and there was a little tear on the lower right corner from the shot wad bouncing off the paper but I can't honestly say I ever shot a goblin. #4 is my choice for turkey load in both my 20 and my 12 gauge guns and for my go to HD gun, that is my choice right or wrong, it is my choice.
I have fired 00 and 000 buck but only at targets, paper and water filled pop bottles. I shoot a lot of slugs just practicing, .410, 20 and 12 and I have taken a deer at around 70 yards with the slug, it was impressive.
I have made clean holes in 2x4's with #6 shot at 10' to show the students in a gun introductory course I was teaching for the women from a local church at our gun club. As part of my demonstration I shot a 5 gallon bucket at 200 yards with my S&W M41 22 cal pistol to show they really should have more respect for the lowly 22.
Took my black bear with a 32 Win spcl and it would be my choice for the go outside gun because it is light, handy, accurate and I am very familiar with it. I used to use my 357 Dan Wesson for deer hunting for nearly 30 years but eyes got a little old for that kind of hunting. Do my deer hunting now with a 44 mag revolver from a stand, a single shot, (scoped), 308, a 50 cal inline muzzle loader and a crossbow, (scoped), depending on the season and where I am hunting. Gamo air rifle for small game has replaced my 22 pistol, same range but it has a scope and my old eyeballs really are beginning to appreciate optics.
I have a blow gun too but don't use it for hunting, I know my limitations and I'm not sure it would be legal.
Mess with my family or my house and find out what an Old Grump can do with #4 shot. There are a lot of us who have walked through the woods and I don't mean tree's in a state park and we got old because we learned what to do and how to do it when it needed doing.
Not exactly a Goblin target and not a shotgun target but this was shooting 5 rounds of ball ammo, right handed only, at 25 yards standing on my hindlegs. Will it do? And if I choose to use a shotgun and #4 shot instead of my 45 inside my house do you think I might have a reason for doing so?
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