What do you do?

Nope. It's Mass. It's only a hate crime if the victim isn't a well-dressed white male. If it is, it must have been their fault. They must have instigated it. Somehow.
 
Redworm and Leif, Being a couple of liberals and obviously hostile toward fellow posters you guys fit the bill perfectly LOL.
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I am neither liberal nor have I been hostile toward anyone in this thread.
 
Nope. It's Mass. It's only a hate crime if the victim isn't a well-dressed white male. If it is, it must have been their fault. They must have instigated it. Somehow.
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And this is supported by....what, pray tell? Any evidence that such a double standard exists or simply more unprovable anecdotes?
 
If it wasn't for them, you'd still be purchasing handmade individual items at great cost, the assembly line never having been invented. Imports of anything would be for the hereditary-by-bloodline rich, and you'd only enjoy produce when it was in season.

The world of only leftists would be one big commune where most everyone is poor, but for a few charismatic leaders who would take advantage...as they always do. And everything would be backwards, with no incentive to innovate or do better.
 
and believe it or not but if you'd been attacked while being called a breeder your assailants would also have been charged with a hate crime
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Proof that you don't live in America. Only white on Black crime can be a hate crime. Only heterosexual crime on a gay can be considered a hate crime. Find a single black or gay that has been charged with a hate crime against a white or heterosexual......it just doesn't happen as things aren't fair but thats another debate.
 
Conservatives built the financial institutions that we take for granted today.
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That's friggin rich. The SEC/DTCC is a joke. Both the libs and cons have destroyed the system that FDR built (who may or may not meet your description of conservative.)
 
Proof that you don't live in America. Only white on Black crime can be a hate crime. Only heterosexual crime on a gay can be considered a hate crime. Find a single black or gay that has been charged with a hate crime against a white or heterosexual......it just doesn't happen as things aren't fair but thats another debate.
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Oh bull bull bull and more bull. I most certainly live in America, I just don't live in the fantasy world of the poor, oppressed white Americans. A homosexual commiting a crime against a hetersexual can most certainly be considered a hate crime if the assault is predicated by the victim's sexual orientation. Yes, there are plenty of blacks charged with hate crimes and I'm sure there are gays charged with hate crimes. Take the time to look through some police records and I'm sure you'll find a smattering.

Now why don't you hear about it more often? Maybe because gays only make up a single-digit percentage of the population and assaults by gays are extremely rare, even per-capita. Maybe it's because most of the crimes commited by blacks against whites are because of income differences and they have nothing to do with race. It's certainly no excuse for commiting the crime but you also don't see whites being charged with hate crime unless racism was their reason for commiting the crime.

"Things aren't fair". :rolleyes: Yes, the poor downtrodden white man is losing his stranglehold on the power base, boohoohoo. I despise the idea of "hate crimes" in general but the idea that the straight white christian male is feeling anywhere near the oppression that women, gays, blacks and other minorities have been feeling for centuries is utter nonesense.
 
Ah, yes. FDR. Enabler of the welfare state that's been rotting the country from the core for most of the 20th century and to this very day. Government coerced "charity". From government as ally to government as...mommy. And the end of the philosophy of American freedom.

The first snowflakes rolled into a ball and sent down the hill.
 
If it wasn't for them, you'd still be purchasing handmade individual items at great cost, the assembly line never having been invented.
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You should probably do some research on the likes of Henry Ford before you make still comments like that.

Once again, you make unfounded statements. Are you exemplar of those whose position you represent? You don't seem very friendly...
 
I'm sure this thread will be nixed quite soon :p so here's a breakdown of what I was trying to get across

1. I can't be in a relationship with someone that has entirely different core values than I do. I couldn't be with a die-hard socialist or a bible-thumper or a Mac user.

2. Political orientation is not a measure of one's morality or "friendliness". You simply percieve the other side of the fence as hostile because you want to.

3. Hate crimes are a crock of bull and the entire concept needs to be abolished but the truth of the matter is that crimes commited for racial, ethnic, religious or sexual orientation reasons are commited primarily by white christian men. You don't hear about the rest because it just doesn't happen as often.
 
Henry Ford was an engineer and self-made businessman. Leftists hate people like that, because they prove that not all people are equal and entitled, and some make more of themselves due to intelligence and a stronger will to succeed.

He became rich as a result of his hard work...something else leftists hate seeing.

And yes, he paid his workers very well for the time.
 
Oh you who knows not of what he speaks: Henry Ford was a freakin' leftist.

How can you even say leftists don't want to pay people.. who exactly pushes for raises in the minimum wage? Why is the CA minumum higher than federal, is it all the conservatives there that you mentioned earlier? :eek:
 
3. Hate crimes are a crock of bull and the entire concept needs to be abolished but the truth of the matter is that crimes commited for racial, ethnic, religious or sexual orientation reasons are commited primarily by white christian men. You don't hear about the rest because it just doesn't happen as often.
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Bull. There were parts of Miami, Overtown and Liberty City, where if you went in as a white person, you'd get your ass kicked. Or shot.

There's plenty of barrios where a white guy will get "pinche gringo" hissed at them and the flash of a butterfly knife, or worse.
 
And the point remains that such incidents do not happen nearly as often as hate crimes commited by whites. Partly because the majority of the population is white (though probably not for too long) but even per-capita the frequency of crimes commited by minorities based solely on race is lower compared to white supremacy crimes. Oh and there are such neighborhoods where even if you're black you can't walk into those hispanic neighborhoods without getting the same threats. There are black neighborhoods where a hispanic man would feel unsafe as well.

Yet the point remains. Hate crimes are a stupid concept but that doesn't change my original statement that if those gay men had attacked you while calling you a breeder they would have been charged with the same hate crime you would have been charged with. Stop pretending like being white in this country is comparable to being anything non-white, non-straight, non-male, non-christian.
 
Ah, yes. FDR. Enabler of the welfare state that's been rotting the country from the core for most of the 20th century and to this very day. Government coerced "charity". From government as ally to government as...mommy. And the end of the philosophy of American freedom.
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While I agree SS should never have gotten of the drawing board; FDR did "built the financial institutions that we take for granted today", did he not? Is this an attempt to build a straw man?


Just to be fair, the conservatives don't away show fiscal restrain as evidenced by the newspaper clipping below.

NEW ORLEANS — In an acknowledgment that the hurricane-shattered Gulf Coast is in a housing crisis and strained by a slow recovery, the Bush administration said Thursday that it intends to house storm survivors into 2009.
 
Oh, get real.


Now, if we could beam Bush down, beam him back up, and have him split into Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter, we could throw Jimmy in the brig and Teflon Ron could sit in the Captain's chair. Then, we'd put a tractor beam on the Liberal ship and send'em back across the Neutral Zone. Sound like a plan?
 
Oh bull bull bull and more bull. I most certainly live in America, I just don't live in the fantasy world of the poor, oppressed white Americans. A homosexual committing a crime against a heterosexual can most certainly be considered a hate crime if the assault is predicated by the victim's sexual orientation. Yes, there are plenty of blacks charged with hate crimes and I'm sure there are gays charged with hate crimes. Take the time to look through some police records and I'm sure you'll find a smattering.
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And the point remains that such incidents do not happen nearly as often as hate crimes committed by whites.
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Wrong wrong wrong. Give us some heck even one case of a black on white hate crime prosecution. Heck a white couple in Tennessee was kidnapped, raped, murdered, and burned by blacks without a hate crime charge. Get your facts straight dude. If a white man had done half of that to a black instant hate crime or the city would burn. BTW I'm not white.............but Hispanic.
 
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