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You choose what is important to you and on which you cannot compromise, you choose that with which you can live, and you act accordingly. Nobody agrees 100% with their spouse or partner's views. Take my wife ... please! 
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I used to joke with this French woman I dated briefly that she should thank my country for not needing to speak in German. Note I said dated briefly ...
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Best ... retort ... ever ...
(just kidding)I used to joke with this French woman I dated briefly that she should thank my country for not needing to speak in German. Note I said dated briefly ...
+ a whole bunch of 1's
Really, SecDef? Then do explain the leftists' driving need to disarm the common man?
To make the poor in the inner cities defenseless before criminals?
To be elitist in terms of the urbane art-student eloi versus the "ign'rant yokels" in flyover country?
To defend criminals as victims, and to blame victims as if criminals?
To put the rights of illegals before those of law-abiding Americans?
I find more genuinely FRIENDLY people in NH, the deep south, and the midwest than I ever do in soCal, NY, or Boston.
Why do you suppose that is, if they're more likely to be "conservative" in the former?
I suggest http://www.ejectejecteject.com/, when you finally realize that leftism just doesn't work, and, as the CEO of Whole Foods said, is a morally bankrupt philosophy that has empowered the bloodiest dictators of the 20th century.
To make the poor in the inner cities defenseless before criminals?
To be elitist in terms of the urbane art-student eloi versus the "ign'rant yokels" in flyover country?
To defend criminals as victims, and to blame victims as if criminals?
To put the rights of illegals before those of law-abiding Americans?
I find more genuinely FRIENDLY people in NH, the deep south, and the midwest than I ever do in soCal, NY, or Boston.
Why do you suppose that is, if they're more likely to be "conservative" in the former?
I suggest http://www.ejectejecteject.com/, when you finally realize that leftism just doesn't work, and, as the CEO of Whole Foods said, is a morally bankrupt philosophy that has empowered the bloodiest dictators of the 20th century.
Because they are afraid of guns. They are afraid of drive bys. I'm not saying their response is rational or appropriate, but isn't that the same fear that drives you to arm yourself in self-defense?
What are you talking about? The whole "elitist" meme is bogus and completely unsupported.
a) socal is way more conservative than nocal, so you have no idea what you are talking about.. I suppose that could be a typo, but neither one fits your concept of "left and unfriendly" so who knows.
b) They might not be friendly to you because it is obvious you are pushing preconceived notions upon them.
I've had no problem with people not being friendly in any part of the US. I've never had a regional problem with a smile. Sure there are the occasional individuals that are rude, but that ends up being something you can laugh at with the person next to them as something of an anomaly.
You also seem to ignore "leftist" cities that are extremely friendly like Chicago and SF.
I just think your statement is unfounded.
Whoa..have you been to Chicago? I have never been to a place where you could brawl in the streets outside a bar and the police just drive by leaning out the window for a better view, except Chicago. Nor have I had to fist fight for a cab that I FREAKIN CALLED, except in Chicago.
I haven't been to Chicago for many years, but obviously its a pretty exciting place
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As to being friends with someone with totally different ethical views: personally, there's no way I could really be good friends with someone who holds totally different moral or ethical views from my own, because I wouldn't respect them. Luckily, my husband shares most of my basic views; either that, or he hides his opinions very well! If that's the case, I guess its a good thing.
It has been said that discussing religion or politics is a sure way to start an argument. I've found this to be true, so probably it isn't a great idea to talk about these things at work (although I used to do both.) However, life is alot more interesting if both those things can be discussed, and I have strong views in both areas.
.As to being friends with someone with totally different ethical views: personally, there's no way I could really be good friends with someone who holds totally different moral or ethical views from my own, because I wouldn't respect them. Luckily, my husband shares most of my basic views; either that, or he hides his opinions very well! If that's the case, I guess its a good thing.
It has been said that discussing religion or politics is a sure way to start an argument. I've found this to be true, so probably it isn't a great idea to talk about these things at work (although I used to do both.) However, life is alot more interesting if both those things can be discussed, and I have strong views in both areas.
Manedwolf, You are absolutely correct that the right is generally a more generous and helpful group. I have "unfortunately" attended political rallies from the left in my early ignorant years. I can assure you that the folks on the right are a much higher class of people both socially and morally. There are exceptions of course but overall you are dead on.
SecDef, Just look at the people who vote for or otherwise support the demoncrats. Many are welfare victims or other lower mentality types. Nothing wrong with that but it does tend to prove Manedwolf's point. Most prisoners if able to vote would vote demoncrat (hence the push by the left to get prisoners voting rights back after sentence served). I believe enough of the demoncrats constituents were so dumb in Palm Beach County, Fl. that they got Bush elected by not being able to correctly complete a butterfly ballot. Something that most 2nd graders did with ease when tested.
SecDef, Just look at the people who vote for or otherwise support the demoncrats. Many are welfare victims or other lower mentality types. Nothing wrong with that but it does tend to prove Manedwolf's point. Most prisoners if able to vote would vote demoncrat (hence the push by the left to get prisoners voting rights back after sentence served). I believe enough of the demoncrats constituents were so dumb in Palm Beach County, Fl. that they got Bush elected by not being able to correctly complete a butterfly ballot. Something that most 2nd graders did with ease when tested.
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Chicago's really neither here nor there when it comes to "friendly". As with all cities, you have the good and the bad. Suggesting it is friendly is a silly as suggesting it isn't friendly.
Maybe tourist types get a different feel for it though, different places, types of people & events.
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No matter where you at - there you are.
Applies to Relationships and Physical Location.
Relationships :
It takes both to make a relationship work.
If one chooses to not work on the relationship, the relationship will not work.
I do not care how the one works that wants the relationship to work, how much money on counseling or any thing else; if the other does not choose to work on the relationship, relationship is dead.
Relationships and Physical Location:
One is either part of the solution or part of the problem.
Don't like the person -work on relationship. If the relationship is dead; accept it, and move on.
Don't like the Gun Laws or any other Restrictions on Freedom, either work to make changes,or move.
Apathy exists in a Free Republic and in a Controlled State
Applies to Relationships and Physical Location.
Relationships :
It takes both to make a relationship work.
If one chooses to not work on the relationship, the relationship will not work.
I do not care how the one works that wants the relationship to work, how much money on counseling or any thing else; if the other does not choose to work on the relationship, relationship is dead.
Relationships and Physical Location:
One is either part of the solution or part of the problem.
Don't like the person -work on relationship. If the relationship is dead; accept it, and move on.
Don't like the Gun Laws or any other Restrictions on Freedom, either work to make changes,or move.
Apathy exists in a Free Republic and in a Controlled State
I know plenty of conservatives who go to raves. The difference is that they don't do X and instead of being bums during the day, are successfully employed or successfully self-employed as well, usually in creative professions.
But yes, you'd probably find more friendly people in general at the former.
spacemanspiff
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Personally I have never had problems with differences of opinions. Some of my closest friends have been those I could debate with. The catch though, is to be able to argue, without losing your cool, and admit when you hold a belief that you cannot explain logically.
The last person I would call a 'best friend' is a card-carrying member of the ACLU, is a liberal, believes in evolution, is anti-gun and anti-use-of-deadly-force, abhors the thought of a higher being, the list goes on and on. She would reach points where she couldn't explain her own beliefs, and so would I. Ironically those were points that we would each say that we held the belief solely on 'faith'.
It is possible to have a relationship with someone who you are polar opposites with. Where people fail is when they try to force the other person to accept or change to conform to their own points of view.
Take the issue of racism. Is being racist inherently a bad thing? All it is is an opinion. When you take it from being an opinion and try to act on it, or persuade others to share your opinion, then its a bad thing. Same goes for just about every topic out there.
The last person I would call a 'best friend' is a card-carrying member of the ACLU, is a liberal, believes in evolution, is anti-gun and anti-use-of-deadly-force, abhors the thought of a higher being, the list goes on and on. She would reach points where she couldn't explain her own beliefs, and so would I. Ironically those were points that we would each say that we held the belief solely on 'faith'.
It is possible to have a relationship with someone who you are polar opposites with. Where people fail is when they try to force the other person to accept or change to conform to their own points of view.
Take the issue of racism. Is being racist inherently a bad thing? All it is is an opinion. When you take it from being an opinion and try to act on it, or persuade others to share your opinion, then its a bad thing. Same goes for just about every topic out there.