Waco TWO?
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Playboypenguin
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Snatching? You choice of wording does very little to cover you personal bent on the situation and your desire to color it as something it does not appear to be in reality.
I do not see people being taken forcibly.
Playboypenguin
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I doubt that has happened at all. Situations like this take lots of investigation and lots of evidence before they are acted upon. The phone call is simply the one piece of info the authorities are feeding the media. Most of the information would not even be able to be shared in a case like this.
Playboypenguin
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See, already it has changed to multiple calls and prior histories of the people involved. I am sure a lot more information will be revealed as time goes on and things are presented in court.
shinnery jim
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sorry guys, I dont like the state taking kids from thier parents either, but I will not gripe at them on this one. I live about 100 miles from where this is playing out. I have heard more about it than most. I dont want any kids left in that place. if adults want to live there and practice their religion fine, more power to them. but not a kid. girl or boy, give them a chance to decide for them selves.
not all you hear is a fact and not all the facts are out in the open. poligimy is still illegal in texas. let the good guys figure it out. then we can all talk about it.
not all you hear is a fact and not all the facts are out in the open. poligimy is still illegal in texas. let the good guys figure it out. then we can all talk about it.
SamHouston
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The difference from Waco
Instead of the ATF, the situation is being handled by Texas Rangers & local law enforcement. I lived in San Angelo (El Dorado) for 15 years and the people there will handle it correctly.
Have you noticed the other religious groups like the Baptist are providing support, places to stay, food and moral support for the families.
Those West Texas people are good as gold and as long as it stays non-Federal, all will turn out well.
Instead of the ATF, the situation is being handled by Texas Rangers & local law enforcement. I lived in San Angelo (El Dorado) for 15 years and the people there will handle it correctly.
Have you noticed the other religious groups like the Baptist are providing support, places to stay, food and moral support for the families.
Those West Texas people are good as gold and as long as it stays non-Federal, all will turn out well.
Northern Sod Breaker
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In case you haven't figured it out yet. The US govt. hates the idea of God in any form. It threatens their "absolute" power. And we can't have that now can we.
Playboypenguin
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Just making those women wear those dresses from the 1800s ought to be a federal offense! I'm guessing that English isn't the OP's first language? I can understand the sentiments of not wanting government involved in family matters, but this is a case of criminals living criminal lives and abusing (on MANY levels) the women and children in the compound.
I'm guessing that a lifetime of psychotherapy won't straighten out some of the messed up folks living in that mess!
I'm guessing that a lifetime of psychotherapy won't straighten out some of the messed up folks living in that mess!
"The whole thing is just not right!"
You are entitled to your opinion. I think most of us realize that there is more to the case than that one-phone-call stuff you keep ranting about.
I hadn't heard about the preacher and his legal problems. "The preacher who was accused of marring the couple in Texas has been in Az. for the last 3 years and has a Parole Officer he has talked to almost every day of those 3 years." I've never worked with any parolees who had to see the their PO everyday for 3 years. Poor guy - the PO that is.
John
You are entitled to your opinion. I think most of us realize that there is more to the case than that one-phone-call stuff you keep ranting about.
I hadn't heard about the preacher and his legal problems. "The preacher who was accused of marring the couple in Texas has been in Az. for the last 3 years and has a Parole Officer he has talked to almost every day of those 3 years." I've never worked with any parolees who had to see the their PO everyday for 3 years. Poor guy - the PO that is.
John
JuanCarlos
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I'm guessing, trying to parse this post, that you're asking why the man who Jeffs married to the underage girl was not also tried for the rape that Jeffs was convicted as an accomplice of. Which is an excellent question.
The answer is that he was. As far as I know, the trial is still pending.
Carry on.
Thunderous intellect and unshakable facts!
My goodness!
We have here, within this very forum, an unmatchable array of learned men and women. For these few among us are able to see, judge and condemn the actions of others from hundreds of miles away. Lucky we are indeed!
These paragons of intellect know that all who act as keepers of the peace want only to harm the sheep. And Child services? Without these men of reason, we might never know that Child services wishes to only snatch away your children in the dark of night!
Too much? Too much sarcasm?
Have we become so morally cowardly that we think that allegations of systemic child abuse, polygamy (in violation of state law), and forced marriages, pale in comparison to the state going through the process of obtaining a legal warrant under the belief that its citizens are being harmed?
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In India it is excepted to sell your daughter into servitude for a pig.
I do not defend this. This is the way the world is.
Some people are so NIEVE to believe that slavery is no longer happening in the world. I can tell you 5 countries that it still happens.
</quote>
It may be naive (isn't correct spelling wonderful?) to assume that slavery is dead in this world. But in the United States of America, we have this little thing called the 13th Amendment. It prohibits slavery. I know, I was surprised there were more amendments than just the one we quote all so often.
Just because evil exists in the world doesn't mean we turn a blind eye to it, doesn't mean we chalk it up to "that's the way the world is".
Sorry, freedom doesn't mean you get hurt others. And sometimes the cops are right.
Imagine that.
Wait for the facts...
My goodness!
We have here, within this very forum, an unmatchable array of learned men and women. For these few among us are able to see, judge and condemn the actions of others from hundreds of miles away. Lucky we are indeed!
These paragons of intellect know that all who act as keepers of the peace want only to harm the sheep. And Child services? Without these men of reason, we might never know that Child services wishes to only snatch away your children in the dark of night!
Too much? Too much sarcasm?
Have we become so morally cowardly that we think that allegations of systemic child abuse, polygamy (in violation of state law), and forced marriages, pale in comparison to the state going through the process of obtaining a legal warrant under the belief that its citizens are being harmed?
<quote>
In India it is excepted to sell your daughter into servitude for a pig.
I do not defend this. This is the way the world is.
Some people are so NIEVE to believe that slavery is no longer happening in the world. I can tell you 5 countries that it still happens.
</quote>
It may be naive (isn't correct spelling wonderful?) to assume that slavery is dead in this world. But in the United States of America, we have this little thing called the 13th Amendment. It prohibits slavery. I know, I was surprised there were more amendments than just the one we quote all so often.
Just because evil exists in the world doesn't mean we turn a blind eye to it, doesn't mean we chalk it up to "that's the way the world is".
Sorry, freedom doesn't mean you get hurt others. And sometimes the cops are right.
Imagine that.
Wait for the facts...
I suspect there is much, much more to the case than one phone call - things that have been festering for some time. But I would not be surprised if the phone call was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back and gave the authorities a reason to get inside the compound and talk to some of the people.
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