• Anything ‘published’ on the web is viewed as intellectual property and, regardless of whether it displays a copyright symbol or not, is therefore copyrighted by the originator. The only exception to this is if there is a “free and unrestricted reuse” statement associated with the work.

    In order to protect our members and TFL from possible litigation, all members must abide by the following new rules:

    1. Copying and pasting entire articles from another site to TFL is strictly prohibited. The same applies to articles from print or other media, and to posting photographs taken of copyrighted pages or other media.

    2. Copyright law provides for “fair use” of portions of a copyrighted work. You can copy no more than a SINGLE paragraph from the article to your post (3 or 4 sentences at most).

    3. You must provide a link to the article along with the name of website. For example: ww.xxx.yyy/zzz (The Lower Thumbsuck Daily News).

    4. You must provide, in your own words, a brief summary of the article AND your reasons for believing it will be of interest to TFL members. Failure to do so may result in the thread being closed or your post being deleted as a “cut and paste drive by.”

    5. Photographs and other images are also copyrighted. "Hotlinking" of images (so that it appears in your message) from other sites is also prohibited unless you own rights to the image. If you wish to share an image, provide a clickable link to it.

    Posts that do not follow these new guidelines will be altered or deleted by staff. Members who continue to violate this policy may lose their posting privileges at TFL.

    Thank you for your cooperation and your participation in TFL, the leading online forum for firearms enthusiasts.

THR is down right now...again

Status
Not open for further replies.
Will somebody PLEASE post more information about the nature and origin of this attack, with some actionable information this time? The local press (print and broadcast) has some interest now, and you can be sure that there's nothing like shining a bright light in some sh*tbag's eyes to bring the problem to light. Useful information would include the name and location of the ISP from which these attacks are originating. If it's the one I think it is, I know the head of law enforcement for that jurisdiction. He's an AVID 2A supporter and shooting sports enthusiast, and his politics are (like mine) very far to the right of Darth Vader's. I also know some of the local feds, and would love to get them involved. With the help of the press, it won't be hard to get them involved in investigating the denial of constitutionally-protected discussion of constitutionally-protected, legal activities.

If you aren't comfortable with posting the information, please PM me with it so we can get this ball rolling. I'm not usually a fan of lawyers, being much more in favor of the ever-field-expedient lead-pipe-swinging ni-... well, you get the picture. But in this case, we need the public to know what's going on.

Specialized
 
Specialized,

I have nothing to offer other than to point you to this thread:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=279936

It is Derek's latest comments regarding the most recent outtage. I don't know how much information he or Oleg are willing to divulge. Sounds like Derek has a lot going on right now as well, so you might consider communicating with Oleg about the matter as well to get his thoughts on the best path forward.

Good luck.
 
Looks like I'm late for the party, as usual. I believe I'll pull up a chair and maybe spend some time over here on TFL.
Click to expand...

Yep, same here. I even brang some Killian's along ... oh well, more for me ;).

--------

Though no one knows who is responsible for these attacks, my guess is that it is somewhere in between a "pimply faced teen" and a big anti-gun organization. Maybe it's a few pimply faced anti-gun teens that stumbled upon the THR or APS one day and found a vulnerability.
 
Gewehr98:

Thanks for the quick, concise explaination.

As for the site being charged for transmissions likely in violation of existing law, correct me if I'm wrong on this, such charges seem questionable to say the very least.

Re these transmissions themselves, I would think, again I might be wrong, that they could be tracked/traced back to their origin, and the perteprators, if located in the U.S. prosecuted to hell and back, assuming that anyone can get the U.S. DOJ to do what it is paid to do.

Just a couple of random thoughts from an old grouch.
 
As for the site being charged for transmissions likely in violation of existing law, correct me if I'm wrong on this, such charges seem questionable to say the very least.
Click to expand...
I don't know for certain, but I would expect they'd have to prove it wasn't legitimate traffic. Of course, it's obvious that it isn't legitimate, but you'd still have to provide evidence.

Re these transmissions themselves, I would think, again I might be wrong, that they could be tracked/traced back to their origin,
Click to expand...
Assuming the traffic is coming from the actual perpetrators and not from a zombie machine. Sometimes you get lucky and the attack is coming from the perpetrator's machine, other times, it's coming from a system who's owner/sysadmin is ignorant about security.

Chris
 
ha...

...It's good to be myself again!
Back up and runnin'...gotta' love these guyz...
rauch06.gif
 
Well, here we go again. THR and APS are under attack again. Someone must enjoy screwing up the weekends. Would be nice if the person could be ID'd and arrested, assuming these attacks are unlawful.
 
Damn, I was beginning to think we would make it through a full weekend without any attacks. When did it go down this time?. Last time I was on was 2AM eastern time and its noon now.This sucks. Well I guess everyone will be back over here at "the usual" meeting spot when it goes down:rolleyes: I gotta send a few bucks to Derek.
 
My gallery site is also down now. The entire ISP is off line. Fortunately, Derek found a new ISP, so we will migrate within the week.
 
It is back up. Coincidentally, I got a lovely email from someone. I am not sure if he is trying to claim responsibility or just annoying me:

Subject:
(no subject)
From: Aaron <aheist@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:12:15 -0400
To: olegv@dd-b.net
X-Account-Key: account2
X-UIDL: UID43177-1114406723
X-Mozilla-Status: 1001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
Return-Path: <>
X-Original-To: olegv
Delivered-To: olegv@m39.spamarrest.com
Received: from m39 (m39 [10.1.1.39]) by m39.spamarrest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D65919054F for <olegv>; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 09:14:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-SA-DELIVERED-TO: <olegv@spamarrest.com>
Received: from mail3.wellbuiltnetworks.net (unknown [209.51.144.59]) by m31.spamarrest.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D0025544062 for <olegv@spamarrest.com>; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 09:14:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 17400 invoked by uid 399); 3 Jun 2007 16:22:20 -0000
Delivered-To: olegvolk.net-oleg@olegvolk.net
Received: (qmail 17398 invoked by uid 399); 3 Jun 2007 16:22:20 -0000
Delivered-To: photo@olegvolk.net
Received: (qmail 17394 invoked by uid 399); 3 Jun 2007 16:22:20 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO postalmail-mx3.g.dreamhost.com) (208.97.132.66) by wellbuiltnetworks.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2007 16:22:20 -0000
X-Originating-IP: 208.97.132.66
Received-SPF: neutral (wellbuiltnetworks.net: 208.97.132.66 is neither permitted nor denied by SPF record at _spf.google.com) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=208.97.132.66; envelope-from=<aheist@gmail.com>;
Received-SPF: neutral(gmail.com: 209.51.144.59 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of _spf.google.com)
Received: from deathwish.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-81.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.81]) by postalmail-mx3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC7820BD3 for <olegv@dd-b.net>; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 09:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deathwish.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30F7175134 for <olegv@dd-b.net>; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 09:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-DH-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at deathwish.dreamhost.com
X-Spam-Score: 0
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=999 tests=[none]
Received: from deathwish.dreamhost.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deathwish.dreamhost.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jbrofCOVOfgF for <olegv@dd-b.net>; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 09:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by deathwish.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85268175131 for <olegv@dd-b.net>; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 09:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so934858wxd for <olegv@dd-b.net>; Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ItBGJrXMHzhYK9K3L9LA++NQ9TdFdiAXJmfxVqRtnyF0ZYLg9So46zzBXmxtSOG9+u4WR5l8E+xkK/hNHu7E1o2MzWw/j68bxXDZyNZiCdBOy6jj+fQYk/lmO6CahDTj6P/c0qUh+wjv67H1Keqg5rD+kP2UNP9+AnmQ2XO6EHE=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jjBuQmbPXFBKl5ymAeR80vtGy1kWMyXLa4Jfhhlxo9UoC3SGHKBNMzp7vLuakj5IdHG8wWX3e73KlaXLAsOX3kaada/X3idaHAV2eMHtppeReloyeTXgq9Z1uno99ofPmWwN8eezJBEycQqcucLeml0CiPKRMqKZtH3FfNEfC9A=
Received: by 10.70.23.1 with SMTP id 1mr5897013wxw.1180887206893; Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [72.155.112.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 26sm1749875wra.2007.06.03.09.13.26; Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <4662E85F.5090902@gmail.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
X-SA-MPREASON: sender enabled (aheist@gmail.com)
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.472 [269.8.7/830]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Are you ready to apologize for lying about my so-called 'threats of violence' yet?
 
Oleg et al....

I don't see how disrupting another person's website could be other than a crime, but that's just my opinion. It should be reported if you intend legal or civil action.


If you're so inclined, you can report internet crime to the following:

http://www.ic3.gov/
 
No, it also covers hacking which may apply here.
See this page:
http://www.ic3.gov/about/

I think that locally the offense may be described as Criminal Mischief, Criminal Tampering, Malicious Mischief, etc. Possibly it could be considered felonious.

Anyway, it wouldn't hurt to apply there, if you're so disposed.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top