marine6680
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Larry^^ That was basically my original rant.
How did we get to using concrete numbers? The whole budget/afford thing was a hypothetical... $150... $200... $250... there is always something of better quality/reliability just $50-75 more than your target budget.
There are many who make poor money choices... buy expensive cell phones and other things instead of being reasonable with their budget... those people do need to re-evaluate their finances...
Their are some who are simply poor due to life circumstances.
Practice is important, and I recommend at least a couple hundred rounds of FMJ and 1 box of the chosen JHP for at least some reliability testing... then one more box of JHP used to keep the gun loaded and ready.
Would more testing, practice, and training be preferable? YES... more is always better, but even in 9mm you are looking at least $80 for minimum practice I described above. So that $150 Hi-point/used revolver just jumped to $230 plus taxes.. $250 when its all said and done.
Some poor single mom who's ex was thrown in jail for domestic violence, then moved to a new apt to make it harder for him to find her... and he is getting out of jail soon and she is afraid for her safety... Those people exist.
She might not be the best shot in the world, but if she at least chose well with the firearm purchase, and learned how the gun works and did some practice, maybe even had some basic instruction from the range master or people at the range or gun store... She has a heck of a lot better chance at defending herself than she did before.
That was the angle I was mostly thinking about it from... that and the family just scraping by in a bad neighborhood and just needing something that they can use to protect themselves should they ever need, while being reasonably able to afford it.
And maybe my history/back story was not needed and/or over the top rhetoric to the topic at hand... but the basic points still stand.
How did we get to using concrete numbers? The whole budget/afford thing was a hypothetical... $150... $200... $250... there is always something of better quality/reliability just $50-75 more than your target budget.
There are many who make poor money choices... buy expensive cell phones and other things instead of being reasonable with their budget... those people do need to re-evaluate their finances...
Their are some who are simply poor due to life circumstances.
Practice is important, and I recommend at least a couple hundred rounds of FMJ and 1 box of the chosen JHP for at least some reliability testing... then one more box of JHP used to keep the gun loaded and ready.
Would more testing, practice, and training be preferable? YES... more is always better, but even in 9mm you are looking at least $80 for minimum practice I described above. So that $150 Hi-point/used revolver just jumped to $230 plus taxes.. $250 when its all said and done.
Some poor single mom who's ex was thrown in jail for domestic violence, then moved to a new apt to make it harder for him to find her... and he is getting out of jail soon and she is afraid for her safety... Those people exist.
She might not be the best shot in the world, but if she at least chose well with the firearm purchase, and learned how the gun works and did some practice, maybe even had some basic instruction from the range master or people at the range or gun store... She has a heck of a lot better chance at defending herself than she did before.
That was the angle I was mostly thinking about it from... that and the family just scraping by in a bad neighborhood and just needing something that they can use to protect themselves should they ever need, while being reasonably able to afford it.
And maybe my history/back story was not needed and/or over the top rhetoric to the topic at hand... but the basic points still stand.