I should have got a Smith & Wesson Or a Ruger. Sure they can have problems also! But they take care of thier problems right now! I had one friend, well I had 2 but one moved, he sent a S&W 9mm back for a repair. 4 days transit, there & back! He had his gun back on day 5!! That means something!!
Taurus Quality: Objective Opinions...?
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aroundchicago
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Just consider for a second how many different models of guns Taurus produces. IMO, when you're producing so many different models, you're not going to produce many of them very well. IMO, Taurus should reduce the amount of different models they make, and do a better job manufacturing the models they have. Just go to Taurus's website and see for yourself.....they've got way too many models. While I'm sure some people have had good luck with their Taurus, I wouldn't trust my life to one.
A single PT-140 Millennium is the only Taurus I've ever owned. Purchased used, (and looked like it had indeed seen a bit of use) it eventually broke on me last year after firing close to a thousand rounds of various brand factory loads and handloads. After contacting the company and following their instructions, the pistol was sent back. The turn around time given to me was between four and six weeks and nothing came out of my pocket for shipping in either direction. The pistol was back in my hands inside of four weeks, repaired and ready for use. Since then I've put a few hundred more factory rounds and a few hundred handloads down range without a problem.
My brother purchased a new 24/7 .45 a few years ago and has since sent a few thousand rounds down range problem free.
Neither of us are devoted, multi-Taurus pistol owners and fans with a world of experience with the brand under our belts and I for one don't run around yelling from the rooftops for everyone to go out and by a Taurus. However, with the two of us owning a variety of brand name handguns for a combined total of more than half a century you won't hear us bad mouthing the brand either. Sometimes things break, that's the way it goes but they backed up the warranty for me 100% in short order even though I'm not the original owner of the weapon. That's what I expected from a lifetime warranty and that's what I got. No complaints here.
My brother purchased a new 24/7 .45 a few years ago and has since sent a few thousand rounds down range problem free.
Neither of us are devoted, multi-Taurus pistol owners and fans with a world of experience with the brand under our belts and I for one don't run around yelling from the rooftops for everyone to go out and by a Taurus. However, with the two of us owning a variety of brand name handguns for a combined total of more than half a century you won't hear us bad mouthing the brand either. Sometimes things break, that's the way it goes but they backed up the warranty for me 100% in short order even though I'm not the original owner of the weapon. That's what I expected from a lifetime warranty and that's what I got. No complaints here.
When the factory was owned by Beretta, they put out marvelous weapons.Taurus bought it, spent $20,000,000 upgrading the tooling, kept most of the Beretta engineers, almost all of the assemblers and smiths.They were producing 250,000 pistols a year, now production is up to 600,000, only Remington sells more and most of them are rifles.The US gets only a little over half of them.My PT 24/7 Pro Ds has been flawless, and has the smoothest S/A trigger of any pisto;l I've owned.Takeup is long but easy to get accustomed to.According to the gun dept mgr at my Academy they sell close to 100,000 nationwide, and seldom hear of many complaints. They wont take your gun back but will assist in getting your problem handled by CS and getting your pistol Fed-exed to Brazil, Actually the CS people in miami send out the prepaid Fedex labels and they are pretty prompt about it. That doesn't stop your package from having to clear customs four times before you get it back.As a former shipping manager,I can tell you many a horror story about customs around the world.I've had packages that were critical held up for 60 days. 60 days where my technician sat on his ass, and we billed Aramco $500 a day till his repair parts finally arrived.
FrankenMauser
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Taurus firearms stay in the U.S. for service. Exporting and reimporting each gun would drive the cost of repairs through the roof.
N.H. Yankee
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I have owned at least 5 Taurus pistols and 2 revolvers and have had ZERO problems. Two 41 magnums, three 9mm pistols a 40 and a 45 PT1911 when they first hit the market. the only issue I had with one 9mm was the fixed sights hit 4 inch's high for me and I shoot a lot! Now that is not saying Taurus doesn't have problems with guns, but TWO out of the last THREE S&W pistols I bought were HORRIBLE and had to be returned, one went back twice with an unbelievable lack of attention on the warranty centers part.
EVERY company has had guns with problems, its just the percentage of problems that stand out with some companies. I cannot say if Taurus is higher than anyone else because one has to factor the number of guns sold. Its like saying I hardly ever hear of problems about Ed Brown guns or Wilson combat, but how many of their guns are out there verses Taurus?
I also hear complaints about internal finish, well I have seen some guns that get raved about that are worse than Taurus. I have also seen some real poorly finished guns that were dead reliable and some really well finished guns that were better suited as paper weights. Now as far as warranty work, I have never had to send back a Taurus but listen to those who have.
Sometimes I think there is a prejudice against Taurus and perhaps this has manifested from years past when Q/C wasn't so good.
EVERY company has had guns with problems, its just the percentage of problems that stand out with some companies. I cannot say if Taurus is higher than anyone else because one has to factor the number of guns sold. Its like saying I hardly ever hear of problems about Ed Brown guns or Wilson combat, but how many of their guns are out there verses Taurus?
I also hear complaints about internal finish, well I have seen some guns that get raved about that are worse than Taurus. I have also seen some real poorly finished guns that were dead reliable and some really well finished guns that were better suited as paper weights. Now as far as warranty work, I have never had to send back a Taurus but listen to those who have.
Sometimes I think there is a prejudice against Taurus and perhaps this has manifested from years past when Q/C wasn't so good.
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My Tracker's barrel was over/under tightened. The rear sight is adjusted all the way to the right to get it to shoot straight. The cylinder is canted forward. It failed to fire Blazer 44 Spl ammo. The orange stripe on the front sight is a sticker. The finish isn't great. The trigger isn't great either. The forcing cone is thin compared to other magnums, which must be why Taurus claims not to use a 240 grn bullet beyond 1350 fps.
Wish I would have known about their issues beforehand...
1 yr old as of October.
Wish I would have known about their issues beforehand...
1 yr old as of October.
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N. H. Yankee said:
rodwhaincama said:
This is my final thoughts (I think).
The above responses are normal for Taurus. I am a former Taurus owner. Yes, other makes do have problems, but it's hard to escape the fact that Taurus seems to have more QC complaints.
It's a personal decision. I have decided that I just do not trust Taurus, but I will say again, I think they have some great designs....not counting QC issues.
I have not had good luck with the Taurus brand. I tell those who ask that a Taurus handgun is ok as long as you don't shoot it. There are 1000's of satisfied T users whose guns remain in their underwear drawer, and they swear by them. I have heard that terminated Keltec repair techs report immediately at the T plant and vice-versa.
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I have owned several Taurus products over the years. Some were bought NIB others were second hand, here's the rundown.
1989 M66 Bought used in '05 looks brand new and is 100%. This is one of my carry guns.
2007 PT140 NIB This gun has been flawless since day 1 and is my wife's carry gun.
2007 PT1911 NIB Once again not a single problem and one of the best triggers I've yet to experience. My Primary carry gun.
2006 M85ULSS NIB No problems with this gun either. It was my wife's primary for a few years until recently she discovered in a training class that it didn't suit her.
2003 PT22 Used in '08 It was picky about ammo, but with quality ammo it would run all day long. Sold it because it was an impulse purchase and I didn't need a .22 pocket pistol.
1988 PT92 Used in 08. This gun was well used and soon developed extraction problems, a new extractor spring from Wolff solved that and it was back to 100%. Sold it when money got tight, wish I still had it.
2007 M94 NIB. The trigger was a bit heavy at first but after a few thousand trouble free rounds of the cheapest crap I could scrounge, it has smoothed out nicely.
That is my experience with Taurus, take it for what it's worth. I like Taurus products and will continue to buy them if they offer something that suits my fancy when I have some fun money to spend. As a side note I have also owned S&W, Sprinfield, Ruger, Hi-Point, Kel-Tec, RG, Star, and several others, and none of them had problems either. I'm either really lucky or it has something to do with me taking care of my stuff.
1989 M66 Bought used in '05 looks brand new and is 100%. This is one of my carry guns.
2007 PT140 NIB This gun has been flawless since day 1 and is my wife's carry gun.
2007 PT1911 NIB Once again not a single problem and one of the best triggers I've yet to experience. My Primary carry gun.
2006 M85ULSS NIB No problems with this gun either. It was my wife's primary for a few years until recently she discovered in a training class that it didn't suit her.
2003 PT22 Used in '08 It was picky about ammo, but with quality ammo it would run all day long. Sold it because it was an impulse purchase and I didn't need a .22 pocket pistol.
1988 PT92 Used in 08. This gun was well used and soon developed extraction problems, a new extractor spring from Wolff solved that and it was back to 100%. Sold it when money got tight, wish I still had it.
2007 M94 NIB. The trigger was a bit heavy at first but after a few thousand trouble free rounds of the cheapest crap I could scrounge, it has smoothed out nicely.
That is my experience with Taurus, take it for what it's worth. I like Taurus products and will continue to buy them if they offer something that suits my fancy when I have some fun money to spend. As a side note I have also owned S&W, Sprinfield, Ruger, Hi-Point, Kel-Tec, RG, Star, and several others, and none of them had problems either. I'm either really lucky or it has something to do with me taking care of my stuff.
Simply from reading this thread it would be easy to decide that buying a Taurus is hit or miss. I've been shooting for more than 55 years - yep, geezer, and I purchased my first, a TCP .380 last month.
You know that feeling, first time at the range with a new one; a combination of excitment and expectation? Well, I had it. I bought it for warm weather CC and I was ready to enjoy the day. I always take'em apart, clean and lube'em, test fill the magazines, etc. I was really ready!
Thirty six FTEs out of 48 sent down range!? I was one very unhappy camper!
Phone call next day. It is now in Miami and I'm told it will be 6 to 8 weeks. I'll run a few boxes thru it to make sure it is working and then sell it. I just can't bet the family kester on something with that kind of QC.
You know that feeling, first time at the range with a new one; a combination of excitment and expectation? Well, I had it. I bought it for warm weather CC and I was ready to enjoy the day. I always take'em apart, clean and lube'em, test fill the magazines, etc. I was really ready!
Thirty six FTEs out of 48 sent down range!? I was one very unhappy camper!
Phone call next day. It is now in Miami and I'm told it will be 6 to 8 weeks. I'll run a few boxes thru it to make sure it is working and then sell it. I just can't bet the family kester on something with that kind of QC.
The only Taurus I've ever had was a PT-22. Fit and finish were actually decent, and the trigger was not nearly as bad as other reviewers made it seem, that is, it wasn't so heavy that accuracy beyond 10 feet was not possible. Plus, it was nice that disassembly for cleaning was so easy. Downside is, the gun was not particularly reliable, and would FTF probably about 1% of the time. Tolerable in a plinking gun, but not much else. Ended up trading it for a Tokarev.
I too had heard all the Taurus bashing over the years; bought a PT1911 because of the features vs price. Initial excitement lasted maybe 30 seconds after holding it. It was readily obvious that the materials used were sub-par. Fit was ok, finish was horrible- surface rust developed on the blue overnight.
For the price, a used Colt, SA, or even a new Rock Island would be a better choice.
For the price, a used Colt, SA, or even a new Rock Island would be a better choice.
Hi wingman. Yes, a big 'ol A right at the end. I'm not real happy to hear that Taurus is perfecting their problem using a whole production run. I guess I should plan to run a lot of ammo thru it just to make sure I'm not passing a bad gun to someone else.
I bought a "problamatic" gun from someone years ago and spent a lot of time feeling cheated. I ate that one, so to speak, because I refused to pass it along. I hope that is not the case with the TCP.
Thanks for the heads up.
I bought a "problamatic" gun from someone years ago and spent a lot of time feeling cheated. I ate that one, so to speak, because I refused to pass it along. I hope that is not the case with the TCP.
Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the info,mine has the A, rumor were first ones were made in Brazil newer ones in USA, I will say that many companies make changes as they produce and receive returns so, yes its using the consumer as a testing grounds. The pocket pistols appear to me needing more break in time and a lot of lube. I purchased a Kahr some years back that was so tight I ran it somewhat in an oil bath spraying oil on safety glasses as I fired. It now has several hundred rounds without failure, the Taurus TCP has 200 of reloads and commercial without a misfire.
I've owned three Taurus weapons.
My first handgun was a model 85, about 15 years ago. Still have it, it's an excellent gun, lives in my glove box at present.
I owned a PT-25 for a while; never had a problem with it but traded it when I wanted something bigger.
My most recent purchase is a 617, 7-shot snubbie .357. After 20-30 rds, the cylinder would lock up. Since I bought it to carry, figured that wouldn't work too well. Instead of iffy customer service, I took it to an excellent local gunsmith who gave it a glass-smooth trigger job and opened the cylinder-barrel gap. It was so tight that heat expanded the metal enough to lock the cylinder. After the 'smith visit -- and $85 -- it has become one of my favorite guns. I don't carry it (it's a bit heavy) but it is my house gun, follows me everywhere when I'm at home.
I think Taurus is trying, but when you make anything to a price, you have to take shortcuts somewhere. If everybody could afford a $1,000 Smith or a nifty Kimber .45, we wouldn't have these discussions. But because money is still an issue with most of us, Taurus continues to sell (relatively) inexpensive guns. Most work fine, but be prepared for yours not to.
My first handgun was a model 85, about 15 years ago. Still have it, it's an excellent gun, lives in my glove box at present.
I owned a PT-25 for a while; never had a problem with it but traded it when I wanted something bigger.
My most recent purchase is a 617, 7-shot snubbie .357. After 20-30 rds, the cylinder would lock up. Since I bought it to carry, figured that wouldn't work too well. Instead of iffy customer service, I took it to an excellent local gunsmith who gave it a glass-smooth trigger job and opened the cylinder-barrel gap. It was so tight that heat expanded the metal enough to lock the cylinder. After the 'smith visit -- and $85 -- it has become one of my favorite guns. I don't carry it (it's a bit heavy) but it is my house gun, follows me everywhere when I'm at home.
I think Taurus is trying, but when you make anything to a price, you have to take shortcuts somewhere. If everybody could afford a $1,000 Smith or a nifty Kimber .45, we wouldn't have these discussions. But because money is still an issue with most of us, Taurus continues to sell (relatively) inexpensive guns. Most work fine, but be prepared for yours not to.