Very true on the last part. It is wise to be a discriminating customer. However keep in mind that the people working at Home Depot are usually college kids who see this merely as a job to get them through school. It's definitely not a career and nor should it be. And business that are out to make money are evil!
Sportsman's Warehouse vs. WallyWorld in Ammo.
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WalMart has become the poster child for the political left because the company is not unionized and engages in what many seem to think are predatory practices. Being union or non-union is an employee choice. They vote on it. Walmart does not hire the Pinkerton agency to beat and shoot organizers. If it were such a terrible place, then why are the parking lots full? Last time I checked, no one forced me to go to WalMart. Seems like some folks want others to pay more for what they buy just to satisfy their political beliefs.
Since this is a shooting forum, let me pose a question. I'm planning to buy a 1911 45. I've shot my son's Springfield Mil-spec and believe it will do everything I want from a 45. The price spread locally is about $200 with a "mom & pop" gun shop at the high end. I think the world of the folks at that shop and have made several purchase there. However, if I can get the same pistol by going to the low-cost seller, why would I spend the extra money at the mom&pop shop? How many reading this forum are willing to donate an extra $200 because mom & pop are really nice folks? Works the same for WalMart
Since this is a shooting forum, let me pose a question. I'm planning to buy a 1911 45. I've shot my son's Springfield Mil-spec and believe it will do everything I want from a 45. The price spread locally is about $200 with a "mom & pop" gun shop at the high end. I think the world of the folks at that shop and have made several purchase there. However, if I can get the same pistol by going to the low-cost seller, why would I spend the extra money at the mom&pop shop? How many reading this forum are willing to donate an extra $200 because mom & pop are really nice folks? Works the same for WalMart
Big, I think the difference is not like Microsoft. Walmart uses its pressure to get what it wants at the expense of many companies. The blame falls on both the companies in giving walmart what it wants, at the expense of cutting into its own bottom line. If everyone stopped giving walmart what it wanted, walmart would be out of business. People don't think like that
Microsoft, however doesn't do anything really well. They just have a lot of stuff out there and do play some dirty tricks to keep competitors out of their way.
None of it REALLY extends to guns. The sad thing is that "gunnies" are a minority. Many people have quietly and gladly embraced the shepherd's hook and been granted access into the fold of sheep. They think it is safer as they are told that the wolf is kept at bay by the fact that the sheep dog is there (police). But with thousands of sheep and a handful of sheep dogs, the wolves are going to eat a lot of sheep.
Microsoft, however doesn't do anything really well. They just have a lot of stuff out there and do play some dirty tricks to keep competitors out of their way.
None of it REALLY extends to guns. The sad thing is that "gunnies" are a minority. Many people have quietly and gladly embraced the shepherd's hook and been granted access into the fold of sheep. They think it is safer as they are told that the wolf is kept at bay by the fact that the sheep dog is there (police). But with thousands of sheep and a handful of sheep dogs, the wolves are going to eat a lot of sheep.
Dead-Nuts-Zero
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Some interesting reading from the investors point of view...
From the Motly Crew Investment Advisor 8/22/2006
(I am only posting a few parts from their advisor.)
Wal-Mart has become the second largest company in the world -- snapping up $10,000 worth of WMT in 1980 (a full decade after the IPO) would have you sitting over $5 MILLION today...
Nike made the world want to "be like Mike" -- $10,000 of NIKE purchased in 1985 (Michael Jordan's rookie year) would now be worth more than $750,000...
Starbucks became a global brand powerhouse in less than 10 years -- if you bought $10,000 worth of SBUX in 1997 (5 years after its IPO) you'd have $85,650 today...
August 22, 2006
Good afternoon fellow investor,
A $10,000 investment is worth more than $5 million today
Take Wal-Mart for example. Not long after Sam Walton figured out how to bring powerful consumer access to suburban and rural America, some forward-thinking investors grabbed up shares. The really smart ones held on tight...
Now to billions of people around the world, Wal-Mart is the place you go to buy tootsie rolls, a ping pong table, motor oil, diapers, a microwave, ice skates -- you name it, all at great prices.
What has Wal-Mart's stock done since 1980 (a full decade after it went public) through all kinds of up and down markets... all kinds of inflation... deflation... rising dollar... falling dollar... and a half dozen wars?
With shares trading around $44 today, Wal-Mart has risen 488 times in value over the past 26 years. That's 27% annual growth -- every year for over a quarter century!
Let's face it, getting in on a blockbuster investment like Wal Mart in 1980 was a life-changing event for early investors.
The same can be said for getting into Nike in 1985, just as that stock went on a historic run, making nearly 8,000% for its early investors.
And Starbucks went from zero to full-blown global phenomenon practically in the blink of an eye – another bonanza for early investors!
Wal-Mart got on top by constantly inventing new ways of moving the right products to the right customer, at the right time, and always, by the most efficient means possible. In other words, no retailer has ever optimized shelf space better than Wal-Mart. It's the simple business secret that built the Sam Walton empire.
The END
from Motly Crew Investment Advisor ===================================
I own a few shares of WM. The stock is down a little right now, but it's still more than I paid for it. Oh and they keep sending me these quarterly dividens!
I shop there and I save money.
I buy their stock and I make money.
I can stop in on Sunday evening (when mom & pop have gone to bed) and grab a few groceries and a box of ammo too. I know I shouldn't take advantage of them like this, but I just can't hepl myself!!!
Ohhh, Guess who I saw shoping in WM? You guessed it....Mom & Pop (and I thought they were home sleeping)!
From the Motly Crew Investment Advisor 8/22/2006
(I am only posting a few parts from their advisor.)
Wal-Mart has become the second largest company in the world -- snapping up $10,000 worth of WMT in 1980 (a full decade after the IPO) would have you sitting over $5 MILLION today...
Nike made the world want to "be like Mike" -- $10,000 of NIKE purchased in 1985 (Michael Jordan's rookie year) would now be worth more than $750,000...
Starbucks became a global brand powerhouse in less than 10 years -- if you bought $10,000 worth of SBUX in 1997 (5 years after its IPO) you'd have $85,650 today...
August 22, 2006
Good afternoon fellow investor,
A $10,000 investment is worth more than $5 million today
Take Wal-Mart for example. Not long after Sam Walton figured out how to bring powerful consumer access to suburban and rural America, some forward-thinking investors grabbed up shares. The really smart ones held on tight...
Now to billions of people around the world, Wal-Mart is the place you go to buy tootsie rolls, a ping pong table, motor oil, diapers, a microwave, ice skates -- you name it, all at great prices.
What has Wal-Mart's stock done since 1980 (a full decade after it went public) through all kinds of up and down markets... all kinds of inflation... deflation... rising dollar... falling dollar... and a half dozen wars?
With shares trading around $44 today, Wal-Mart has risen 488 times in value over the past 26 years. That's 27% annual growth -- every year for over a quarter century!
Let's face it, getting in on a blockbuster investment like Wal Mart in 1980 was a life-changing event for early investors.
The same can be said for getting into Nike in 1985, just as that stock went on a historic run, making nearly 8,000% for its early investors.
And Starbucks went from zero to full-blown global phenomenon practically in the blink of an eye – another bonanza for early investors!
Wal-Mart got on top by constantly inventing new ways of moving the right products to the right customer, at the right time, and always, by the most efficient means possible. In other words, no retailer has ever optimized shelf space better than Wal-Mart. It's the simple business secret that built the Sam Walton empire.
The END
from Motly Crew Investment Advisor ===================================
I own a few shares of WM. The stock is down a little right now, but it's still more than I paid for it. Oh and they keep sending me these quarterly dividens!
I shop there and I save money.
I buy their stock and I make money.
I can stop in on Sunday evening (when mom & pop have gone to bed) and grab a few groceries and a box of ammo too. I know I shouldn't take advantage of them like this, but I just can't hepl myself!!!
Ohhh, Guess who I saw shoping in WM? You guessed it....Mom & Pop (and I thought they were home sleeping)!
..I don't like walmart so I don't shop there..I don't like any of the big-box chains for that matter...money is a necessary thing in a civilized, industrialized society & I value mine, but it doesn't rule me..I rule over it...I will choose to shop at a smaller place and pay the extra for good service and a pleasnt atmosphere(I get neither at wm...)...after all, when I die all my money all stays here..so what good will it do me then...no good at all..I appreciate value when it comes from a business whose business practices I approve of...if the God of money is what you worship..thats your choice...but then I tend to look at the coming consequences of our societys' choices today not for the instant, yet-short lived gratification of now...may I never become just another sheep of the big fold...
At the rate that american society is eating their young, I hope you have good opportunities after you graduate. "would you like fries with that" is not a promising future, but one we're all heading for after we finish farming our economy overseas. We can't even educate our young anymore. I guess we'll just be cleaning the swimming pools of the rich.
Been hearing that since I was a kid also.
My generation was the first that was not expected to do better than their parents, but for the most part we did.
Why?
Because we are Americans raised on the capitalist principle- Adapt or Die.
Just like we adapted when the grocery store put the specialty shops out of business, just like we adapted when the malls put the neighborhood shops out of business, just like we adapted when Wal-Mart put the strip malls out of business and just like we will adapt when the Internet buy sites put the SuperStores out of business
Wow, JK, who have you been reading lately.....Al Gore? THis same dribble is as old as Marxism. Marx predicted that work conditions would get worse for the proletariot (the working class for those who have never read the works of Marx, interesting reads, but not the best thing out there) but actually things got better. It's all about picking a good career that will be profitable and secure. I'm going to become a teacher, a job that will never go away. Someone else who picks being a VCR repairman back in the day is going to be doing rather poorly.
I'm curious, how is me buying from Wal-Mart crushing my future? it's helping me save money so I can enjoy other things besides paying most of my check to rent and food. If that's "evil" or wrong, then I don't want to be right. And I'm not cleaning anyone's damn pool. That's just an emotional appeal you are using. Please do not insult my intelligence by using that tired old scare tactic.
It is adapt or die. Do you know very many cobblers, steam boat operators, buggy drivers, etc.? No, times change, so do businesses. We are moving from a product nation to a service nation. Not a bad thing, really. It just means you need a good education for the better jobs.
I'm curious, how is me buying from Wal-Mart crushing my future? it's helping me save money so I can enjoy other things besides paying most of my check to rent and food. If that's "evil" or wrong, then I don't want to be right. And I'm not cleaning anyone's damn pool. That's just an emotional appeal you are using. Please do not insult my intelligence by using that tired old scare tactic.
It is adapt or die. Do you know very many cobblers, steam boat operators, buggy drivers, etc.? No, times change, so do businesses. We are moving from a product nation to a service nation. Not a bad thing, really. It just means you need a good education for the better jobs.
Nothing sudden about it.
It took 2 or 3 articles, and a couple of network news shows to open my eyes.
As I said before, I'm about as far right and conservative as you can get.
If most Americans don't want to wake up and smell the coffee, that's fine with me.
As long as Walmart hasn't put your employer out of business (in America) yet, you should defend them.
When you are on the unemployment line, maybe you'll see it differently.
Besides, illegal immigration is a much bigger threat to our way of life right now anyway.
support_six
New member
My Sportsman's Warehouse has many more brands and loadings of ammunition, and it's right out in front of the counter where I can pick and choose. Walmart ammo is behind the counter where you have to be served by someone who probably knows less about ammo than you do. Unless you know exactly what you want, one always feels like buying ammo at Walmart is a chore. ...course you might have the time available if you just took your car in for an oil change. Good thing Walmart's have food because an oil change -- even first in line at 0700 -- can be an all day affair!
stephen426
New member
support_six said:
Thats pretty interesting. I have yet to see handgun ammo in a self service section in any store. I thought Walmart had to keep it behind the counter because they had to control who they were selling it to. They used to ask me stupid questions such as age, if I had been convicted of a felony or domestice violence, or otherwise prohibited from buying ammo. I see shotgun ammo in self service sections, but never handgun ammo.
????? I don't know what the dictatorship of the proletariat(correct spelling) has to do with walmart and cleaning pools, Unless you're saying that Walmart is trying to create a "planned economy", but even that would be a stretch. Hope Charlie Crist gets the teacher pay increase for you. If you want to stay in Florida, you'll need it. Sincerely I wish you the best of luck. No malice intended.
I'm not in Floridia......I'm in Texas.....
Just rehashing what you said about cleaning people's pools and working class. Blah blah, Wal-Mart bad. Just like Starbucks is bad because it puts trendy coffee shops out of business.
Bash Wal-MArt all you want, but if you can't compete with the unskilled labor they generally replace, then maybe you should saunter your donkey back to school and get a better job. Otherwise, suck it up. To quote the Knight Templar off of Indiana Jones (The Last Crusade) "You have chosen poorly...."
I'd also like to point out Wal-Mart employees other jobs besides stock boy and cashier and elderly greeter. My sister is an Accountant and currently employed by Wal-Mart. She gets great benefits and good pay, but even with that she has her eyes set on a bigger company. Maybe the accounting firms she is looking into are doing "predatory" practices as well.
Just rehashing what you said about cleaning people's pools and working class. Blah blah, Wal-Mart bad. Just like Starbucks is bad because it puts trendy coffee shops out of business.
Bash Wal-MArt all you want, but if you can't compete with the unskilled labor they generally replace, then maybe you should saunter your donkey back to school and get a better job. Otherwise, suck it up. To quote the Knight Templar off of Indiana Jones (The Last Crusade) "You have chosen poorly...."
I'd also like to point out Wal-Mart employees other jobs besides stock boy and cashier and elderly greeter. My sister is an Accountant and currently employed by Wal-Mart. She gets great benefits and good pay, but even with that she has her eyes set on a bigger company. Maybe the accounting firms she is looking into are doing "predatory" practices as well.
Not sure how much shootin the rest of you TFLers are doing, but as for me. I easily go through about $40 worth of ammo each visit, i visit the range about once a week, sometimes less if my workload is crazy busy...that's $160 a month. If I were to buy my range ammo at a gunshop instead of Wally World, I would be spending $2000 extra a year for ammo!! If anyone really feels strongly about not buying at Wal-Mart, please send me a check for $2000 and I will gladly go and support my local gunshop for my range ammo.
Just_Parker
Inactive
i actually work at the sportsmans in chattanooga, just a college job but im back in hunting playing with all the toys, its nice to hear good opinions of where i work.
Local Sportsman Warehouse has great deals on ammo. Buying 50ct 180gr practice ammo in 10mm for 12.50 a box. Walmart charges 17.99 for same. SW carries Cor-bon, Winchester and Hordady in 10mm. Walmart carries PMC and Federal. SW employees seems to have some training in firearms and ammunition. Walmart employees usually work the Pet food isle but will try to help. Its a simple choice for me.