Sportsman's Warehouse vs. WallyWorld in Ammo.
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AirForceShooter
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Bass Pro sells the 250 value packs of UMC for $52 and change.
Where I live we don't have Sportsmans Warehouse.
Wally World is the best for price around.
Usually I stock up at the Tampa gun show.
AFS
Where I live we don't have Sportsmans Warehouse.
Wally World is the best for price around.
Usually I stock up at the Tampa gun show.
AFS
bronicadave
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Walmart's business practices illegal? That's a good one. Remember there is nobody forcing people to work at Walmart, there's nobody forcing anyone to buy at Walmart. People always hate the largest and most successful companies, how about some Microsoft bashing while you're at it.
MeekAndMild
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No Wallyworld.
I'll pay more or buy on the internet. Midway stock lots of ammo and they don't fire 80% of the people who start to work for them.
I'll pay more or buy on the internet. Midway stock lots of ammo and they don't fire 80% of the people who start to work for them.
stephen426
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MeekAndMild said:
I guess companies like Walmart just enjoy firing their employees. They get to feel like Donal Trump and say "you're fired!".
Turnover is expensive. You have to recruit replacements, train the new employees, and the new employees have lower productivity until they become adept at their jobs. The terminated employees go to unemployment which Walmart has to pay. I'm sure wasting money like that helps with their keeping prices low.If employees are lazy, unreliable, or steal from you, they should be fired. We live in a free country so they can go apply for a job any where they darn well please. There are no guarantees that the will keep their job if they don't do it well! Thats one reason I hate unions and why productivity is so much lower compared to non-union workers. They are the reason so many jobs get shipped over seas.
When you are dealing with less prestigious jobs (near minimum wage and low educational requirements), turn over is usually high. No offense to anyone working a minimum wage job, but many of the candidates they get are bottom feeders. Its the nature of the beast.
I was just at a WM today to get a matress protector thing. Stopped by the ammo counter to buy some .223 (had to buy something manly to counter the matress thing!), and the idiot couldn't even find it on the shelf. Here's the stuff laid out all nicely, in numerical order, and she can't find .223 near the .22 or .38 or .270 or .243.....
And that box of bullets wasn't that cheap. I'll continue buying in bulk at the gun shows, using wm only as a last-resort.
As for their business practices, I find them distasteful, to say the least. I don't buy chinese any more than I have to, and I gladly do without if I really don't need that chicom whatever.
And that box of bullets wasn't that cheap. I'll continue buying in bulk at the gun shows, using wm only as a last-resort.
As for their business practices, I find them distasteful, to say the least. I don't buy chinese any more than I have to, and I gladly do without if I really don't need that chicom whatever.
Sportman's Warehouse is a great place to shop for hunting and shooting equipment.
Mini14jac,
I agree. It's nice having such a store in Chattanooga. They do have a very nice selection. Although the wife did yell at me, for playing in the Double Bull Matrix Blind. heheh
About Chinamart.
Who cares
May they go out of business.
Mini14jac,
I agree. It's nice having such a store in Chattanooga. They do have a very nice selection. Although the wife did yell at me, for playing in the Double Bull Matrix Blind. heheh
About Chinamart.
Who cares
May they go out of business.
The American Dream!
Walmart began business in small towns in Arkansas. Sam Walton did not like K-mart and thought he could build a better company. He did! And lots of people envy success; knocking what is really just the American dream. They provide employment for a lot of people who otherwise were drawing unemployment and welfare; they pay above the minimum wage and even offer benefits. What they have done, in addition to bringing a new standard in quality for low prices, is keep out the labor unions.
For that reason most of the lunatic left hate Walmart. Personally, I am neutral about them. I wish I had bought shares in their company in 1972 when I had the opportunity - they were, at that time, a client company and the VP with whom I dealt really tried to talk me into investing. I bought a new motorcross motorcycle instead!
I no longer have that motorcycle but have a few mended bones from that experience. I never bought their stock and regret it as I am still working everyday and had I done as the man suggested, I would not be doing that.
One of the wonderful things about this country is that if you come up with a better concept, you will go to the top. I love that.
Last time I looked, no one stood outside the door at Walmart and forced anyone to go in; no one forced people to apply for work there and, since we have laws favoring the unions, no one stops employees from forming one if they thought it would be to their benefit.
Last time I went to Walmart to buy some 9 mm ammo, I had to make two trips -lady in sporting goods could not find her key to the ammo cabinet. I was not really happy. But, so what? I could have gone elsewhere but they are close enough to my office to go again.
We don't have a Sportsman Warehouse here but I hope they will build one. If they get really big I am sure there will be the usual suspects beating the drum about how awful they are. Nothing breeds envy like success.
John
Charlotte, NC
Walmart began business in small towns in Arkansas. Sam Walton did not like K-mart and thought he could build a better company. He did! And lots of people envy success; knocking what is really just the American dream. They provide employment for a lot of people who otherwise were drawing unemployment and welfare; they pay above the minimum wage and even offer benefits. What they have done, in addition to bringing a new standard in quality for low prices, is keep out the labor unions.
For that reason most of the lunatic left hate Walmart. Personally, I am neutral about them. I wish I had bought shares in their company in 1972 when I had the opportunity - they were, at that time, a client company and the VP with whom I dealt really tried to talk me into investing. I bought a new motorcross motorcycle instead!
I no longer have that motorcycle but have a few mended bones from that experience. I never bought their stock and regret it as I am still working everyday and had I done as the man suggested, I would not be doing that.
One of the wonderful things about this country is that if you come up with a better concept, you will go to the top. I love that.
Last time I looked, no one stood outside the door at Walmart and forced anyone to go in; no one forced people to apply for work there and, since we have laws favoring the unions, no one stops employees from forming one if they thought it would be to their benefit.
Last time I went to Walmart to buy some 9 mm ammo, I had to make two trips -lady in sporting goods could not find her key to the ammo cabinet. I was not really happy. But, so what? I could have gone elsewhere but they are close enough to my office to go again.
We don't have a Sportsman Warehouse here but I hope they will build one. If they get really big I am sure there will be the usual suspects beating the drum about how awful they are. Nothing breeds envy like success.
John
Charlotte, NC
Dead-Nuts-Zero
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I buy everything I can find at WM if it's cheaper. And I bet allot of others do too?
Did Sam Walton start out with a little mom & pop store or was his first store a super center?
I used to buy gas from a guy who pumped it for me, washed my windshield and even checked my oil. Does anyone P & M about the 7 - 11? Sears used to sell houses and cottages along with everything "under the sun" as they say. Did they bankrupt anyone but maybe themselves? And my local WM has many employees of "well to do" families working there because they enjoy working a part time job...so what?
Anyone ever hear of Cabelas? Maybe you should have bought your work boots at the local shoe store instead of mail order. Help out the owner of that shoe store so he can afford to live in the best part of town and afford a 3 month vacation in a tropical paradise where he may own an oceanfront house w/pool and 14 acres of lawn to mow, all bought with who's money? And he may only employ 3 people in your community unlike the big box stores who employ almost anyone who is willing to work.
It's a free market out there. Thoes who can't make it in their own business work at WM perhaps?
Sorry, I don't buy into the "WM is killing our country"! McDonalds was a little burger joint once too.
I do however support the local gun shops and drug stores when I can find one. Who knows, they may grow up to be an multi-national empire someday too.
Everyone has to be somewhere. And that's my opinion FWIW.
Did Sam Walton start out with a little mom & pop store or was his first store a super center?
I used to buy gas from a guy who pumped it for me, washed my windshield and even checked my oil. Does anyone P & M about the 7 - 11? Sears used to sell houses and cottages along with everything "under the sun" as they say. Did they bankrupt anyone but maybe themselves? And my local WM has many employees of "well to do" families working there because they enjoy working a part time job...so what?
Anyone ever hear of Cabelas? Maybe you should have bought your work boots at the local shoe store instead of mail order. Help out the owner of that shoe store so he can afford to live in the best part of town and afford a 3 month vacation in a tropical paradise where he may own an oceanfront house w/pool and 14 acres of lawn to mow, all bought with who's money? And he may only employ 3 people in your community unlike the big box stores who employ almost anyone who is willing to work.
It's a free market out there. Thoes who can't make it in their own business work at WM perhaps?
Sorry, I don't buy into the "WM is killing our country"! McDonalds was a little burger joint once too.
I do however support the local gun shops and drug stores when I can find one. Who knows, they may grow up to be an multi-national empire someday too.
Everyone has to be somewhere. And that's my opinion FWIW.
The same thing people are saying about Great Wall Mart were said about malls when they first appeared on the scene.
They destroyed the sense of community and undermined the mom and pops.
But somehow those mom and pops survived long enough to to be undermined by WM.
And the community survived long enough to rise up against Wally
How many local bait and tackle shops are undercut when a Bass Pro moves into town?
Adapt or die it's the American way
Have you guys watched or read anything about Walmart business practices?
I'm not talking about working at Walmart.
I'm talking about the companies that Walmart does business with.
(Or puts out of business, to be more accurate.)
Remember when Walmart had all the "Buy American" signs?
Those days are gone for good.
Do a google on "Walmart Vlasic" or "Walmart Phillips TV".
Those are just two of the companies that Walmart has almost put out of business.
When Phillips Electronics sued Chinese manufactures, claiming they were dumping televisions on the U.S. below cost, to take over the market, Walmart joined the suit on behalf of the Chinese!
Phillips won, by the way.
There is extensive evidence that a U.S. company doing business with Walmart will soon be forced to outsource everything to cheap foreign labor, or close their doors.
Here's how it works:
Walmart comes to you and says they want to carry your widget in their stores.
This means you'll have to double your factory size and hire 200 more employees.
Life is good.
Then in year 2 or 3, Walmart comes back to you and says "We will continue to stock your widgest, but we'll only allow you to make $.01 profit, per item."
If you refuse, they drop your item, and you are facing layoffs, and maybe bankruptcy.
If you say "yes", you'll probably still have to let everyone go, and outsource your widgets to China, or your profits go in the toilet.
Do some research. I'm not making this up.
As more and more of these stories have been published, Walmart business has suffered, and their stock has fallen.
They have the potential to be a great company, if they will allow American companies they do business with to be profitable too.
I used to love Walmart. I still shop there occasionally.
But, when several local businesses closed their doors because of foreign competition, it opened my eyes.
I like cheap stuff too, but if it means I end up working at McDonald's, it's not worth it in the long run to me.
And trust me on this, I'm as far right as you can get.
Republican, Christian, Pro-life, gun owner, etc.
Liberals have nightmares about people like me.
I'm not talking about working at Walmart.
I'm talking about the companies that Walmart does business with.
(Or puts out of business, to be more accurate.)
Remember when Walmart had all the "Buy American" signs?
Those days are gone for good.
Do a google on "Walmart Vlasic" or "Walmart Phillips TV".
Those are just two of the companies that Walmart has almost put out of business.
When Phillips Electronics sued Chinese manufactures, claiming they were dumping televisions on the U.S. below cost, to take over the market, Walmart joined the suit on behalf of the Chinese!
Phillips won, by the way.
There is extensive evidence that a U.S. company doing business with Walmart will soon be forced to outsource everything to cheap foreign labor, or close their doors.
Here's how it works:
Walmart comes to you and says they want to carry your widget in their stores.
This means you'll have to double your factory size and hire 200 more employees.
Life is good.
Then in year 2 or 3, Walmart comes back to you and says "We will continue to stock your widgest, but we'll only allow you to make $.01 profit, per item."
If you refuse, they drop your item, and you are facing layoffs, and maybe bankruptcy.
If you say "yes", you'll probably still have to let everyone go, and outsource your widgets to China, or your profits go in the toilet.
Do some research. I'm not making this up.
As more and more of these stories have been published, Walmart business has suffered, and their stock has fallen.
They have the potential to be a great company, if they will allow American companies they do business with to be profitable too.
I used to love Walmart. I still shop there occasionally.
But, when several local businesses closed their doors because of foreign competition, it opened my eyes.
I like cheap stuff too, but if it means I end up working at McDonald's, it's not worth it in the long run to me.
And trust me on this, I'm as far right as you can get.
Republican, Christian, Pro-life, gun owner, etc.
Liberals have nightmares about people like me.
mini hit it on the head..my brother is an industrial designer and has done work for companies that sell through walmart..he gave me the poop on their distributor tactics you described...for that and other reasons I stopped buying from there years ago and won't return...I won't do EVERYTHING for money...but there are some who will do anything for money...there is a difference between capitalism and cannibalism...
It does seem like there is an obsession with Wal-Mart when most of the other national retailers probably aren't much different.
Go to ANY store and try to find a pair of shoes that isn't made in China or Mexico. Try to find clothes that aren't produced overseas.
Even if you don't want to buy cheaply made crap, it's often difficult to find an alternative. If those companies that are supposedly being crushed by Wal-Mart were more creative in finding a way to market their superior product (even at a slightly higher cost) I think they would find plenty of customers.
On the other hand, who wants to pay more for American made crap that isn't any better than Chinese made crap?
Go to ANY store and try to find a pair of shoes that isn't made in China or Mexico. Try to find clothes that aren't produced overseas.
Even if you don't want to buy cheaply made crap, it's often difficult to find an alternative. If those companies that are supposedly being crushed by Wal-Mart were more creative in finding a way to market their superior product (even at a slightly higher cost) I think they would find plenty of customers.
On the other hand, who wants to pay more for American made crap that isn't any better than Chinese made crap?
Just bought a couple of boxes of .45 CCI Blazer Brass at Wally World for 9.97 for a box of 50. Not too bad since Wally world is closer than any local gun store and no gun show in town this weekend. I have no problem buying from wal-mart. People want to bash wal-mart but if you ever invent something and get it sold to wal-mart it could make you instintly rich. So what you will but I bet wal-mart contracts have made a lot of people rich.
stephen426
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In an open market economy, the main reason for jobs going overseas pretty much comes down to standards of living. We have a much higher standard of living in the US compared to the countries where our jobs are going to. That higer standard of living gets translated into higher prices. I can't support my family and lifestyle making what they are making. The cost of living is much cheaper in those other countries plus they have a much lower standard of living. Is everyone willing to accept a lower standard of living and accept the lower wages that would enable companies to keep jobs in America? I seriously doubt it.
The only other way is to become isolationists and put up steep tarriffs on foreign made products to even out the price advantage and increase cash flow to our government. This is not such a unusual practice. Take a look at Europe. Try and buy a Japanese car in Europe and see how much more expensive it is compared to the buying a Japanese car in the US. We have open markets because other countries have open markets for us.
Now comes the real problem. Many of the products that we have been putting out are NOT competitive. I am not talking just about price, but quality as well. I hate to say it, but I am going to buy whoever makes the best product at the price point I am shopping at. Toyota has surpassed Ford as the #2 in the US in auto sales. More importantly, they are making a huge profit on those cars while domestic car companies have to offer huge rebates and barely make a profit. Does anyone believe that the Japanese have a lower standard of living or cost of living?
I don't believe in buying inferior products at higher prices. If that means some jobs will go overseas, then American had better start giving a damn about the quality of their products and dismantle counter-productive and fat cat unions.
The only other way is to become isolationists and put up steep tarriffs on foreign made products to even out the price advantage and increase cash flow to our government. This is not such a unusual practice. Take a look at Europe. Try and buy a Japanese car in Europe and see how much more expensive it is compared to the buying a Japanese car in the US. We have open markets because other countries have open markets for us.
Now comes the real problem. Many of the products that we have been putting out are NOT competitive. I am not talking just about price, but quality as well. I hate to say it, but I am going to buy whoever makes the best product at the price point I am shopping at. Toyota has surpassed Ford as the #2 in the US in auto sales. More importantly, they are making a huge profit on those cars while domestic car companies have to offer huge rebates and barely make a profit. Does anyone believe that the Japanese have a lower standard of living or cost of living?
I don't believe in buying inferior products at higher prices. If that means some jobs will go overseas, then American had better start giving a damn about the quality of their products and dismantle counter-productive and fat cat unions.
...American industry is on the decline..so there it is..your legacy..no future generation is going to look sentimentally at what your era did...MADE IN U.S.A. is just going to continue to disappear...well, at least I can look back a couple of generations earlier and be proud and pleased at what a different American people did...but then they also made better movies, tv-radio shows, and had a more stable, healthy society for young people to grow up in and adults to engage in the pursuit of happiness(despite the problems & evils of their time)...
..I think China is laughing at our stupidity to build up it's industrial base which they can use to wage an agressive war against us in the future...one reason America had such an advantage in times of war was it's independence of industry...almost all neccessities could and were made within it's borders...
..I think China is laughing at our stupidity to build up it's industrial base which they can use to wage an agressive war against us in the future...one reason America had such an advantage in times of war was it's independence of industry...almost all neccessities could and were made within it's borders...
When I was last in wm, I looked for stuff to buy and the prices they had. They don't have the best prices on stuff! Quite often, you can find better prices at other stores, but you have to look. WM uses pyschology to "fool" you into thinking they have the best prices. It's not lying, but...
I lost faith with wm when the scandals started appearing in the papers. I have family what have worked for them, and have heard the stories from the inside, and it all meshed with the reports on the news. Do I really save money by shopping at WM? Are there prices really the best I can find? Am I getting a quality product, or will it break in a few weeks/months, requiring me to buy another?
I think it's safe to say that WM isn't interested in putting quality on the shelves for a fair price/profit. Rather, those in charge are interested in maximizing their profits regardless of the cost to the consumer or the nation as a whole.
My personal sense of honor just cannot support that. Maybe I'm wrong, but the only thing I buy at wm is ammunition or products made in the USA. The only time I shop at wm is when other stores are closed or I'm pressed for time and they are the only store in the vicinity. And, most importantly, I always walk out with a sense of regret. It's not a positive shopping experience for me, and I don't look forward to stepping through those doors.
I think that's the worst thing you can say about any company.
I lost faith with wm when the scandals started appearing in the papers. I have family what have worked for them, and have heard the stories from the inside, and it all meshed with the reports on the news. Do I really save money by shopping at WM? Are there prices really the best I can find? Am I getting a quality product, or will it break in a few weeks/months, requiring me to buy another?
I think it's safe to say that WM isn't interested in putting quality on the shelves for a fair price/profit. Rather, those in charge are interested in maximizing their profits regardless of the cost to the consumer or the nation as a whole.
My personal sense of honor just cannot support that. Maybe I'm wrong, but the only thing I buy at wm is ammunition or products made in the USA. The only time I shop at wm is when other stores are closed or I'm pressed for time and they are the only store in the vicinity. And, most importantly, I always walk out with a sense of regret. It's not a positive shopping experience for me, and I don't look forward to stepping through those doors.
I think that's the worst thing you can say about any company.