So much for the promise Ruger will fix their firearms

Sorta lame that the poster doesn't know if he has shot 25k rounds or 50k rounds.. sort of a big difference.

In any event, it's funny when someone expects a warranty to cover wearing something out.
 
Good choice Red Beard! Yea! Hope that you don't take these posts personally. I do have to agree with the majority that Ruger seemed to be making you a very good deal for a firearm that had seen detter days and you came across as a bit whiney.

All is well that ends well! Hope your new pistola gives you 250K without any trouble.
 
So you shot (reaches for calculator) about $10,000 worth of ammo through it, and now you don't want to spend $400 to get another, new gun?
 
Very interesting thread!! Read it all :)

Additionally, you modified the gun, which would void any actual warranty if they had one.
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Surprised it took 35 posts to bring this up!!

Hope you enjoy your new pistol! First revolver/semi I owned was a P89 and was really happy with it until I sold it because I needed the money.
 
You won`t be disappointed ,the new 1s seem to be comeing with better attention paid to QC & general apperance over all.

& the laser etched is a+ also .
 
redbearb55 thanks for letting everyone know what you did. I would be interested in knowing how you and the new one get along…. :D
 
Disregarding the non-Ruger modifications, IMHO "worn out" is when the frame has stretched enough that the barrel-cylinder gap is unsafe.

What's your definition?
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That is a good question, one that I have not had to address yet.

I would consider frame stretch to be very bad, and that would definitely be worn out.

Internal parts, cylinder hands, stops, those can be replaced. Cranes can be replaced.

Even a worn barrel throat, barrels can be replaced.

Cylinders can be replaced. I don’t think that would be cheap.

I would definitely junk the thing if the frame needed replacing or the cost to restore is more than a new one.
 
An instructor in a class I took once had a Sig P226 with 60k rounds or so through it, he said he kept it in his safe and would never fire it again for sentimental reasons.

I kind of think I'd be like that. If I've spent that much time and money shooting a gun, it gets heirloom status. I wonder if Ruger will let him keep the original revolver.
 
Yikes! What a journey. He has accepted Ruger's offer. He's now the proud owner of a new Ruger firearm. Since he chose not to tell Ruger to take a hike and ship his beat up, altered gun back to him, I suppose he's happy. I'd be happy if this post is ended. :rolleyes:
 
My one and only Ruger warranty issue was a win for me.
I bought a well used stainless SecuritySix a few years ago.
The first time I shot it, I found the barrel rotated slightly...the front sight was tilted off center.
I contacted Ruger, and they had me send it in.
When it came back, they had installed a new heavy profile barrel with red insert front sight, and polished the entire pistol. Then, they put it in a new Ruger box with the serial number on a sticker on the end.
It looked like a brand new gun...I couldn't be happier.
 
Glad you accepted Rugers offer. Rugers do make good guns. Any firearm no matter who makes it can and will wear out over time.
Good luck,
Howard
 
This is all internet guesstimation so just take it for as worthless as it is.

1.you admitted that you changed out springs in the gun from stock.

2.you used the gun in competitions

3.you state that 95% were 38 special rounds but are'nt you required that you shoot 357 in your steel match competitions?

3.your round count goes to 50,000-so Ruger is looking at 50,000 round (probably plus because you cannot say what the round count actually is within 25,000 rounds!) used handgun that they must think have been fired using hot loaded 357 rounds all it's life.

4.There is probably enough wear in the gun so that Ruger's gunsmiths concur that it is not safe for them to fix for you- hence.

5.They told all this to Ruger's corporate arm and through it's lawyers,the only thing they could do for you on this well used revolver is offer you a great deal on another revolver you can wear out in a decade of competition shooting.

Bottom line-the gun is worn out-you wore it out-you enjoyed wearing it out and now you can get a great deal on another Ruger revolver that will serve you well that you can again-wear out.

I drive a Toyota that has 220,000 miles on it that I have run the 'stink' out of everyday for 11 years-will Toyota give me a new motor and transmission if I turn it in and say it's worn out?

Heck,they won't give me a half price deal on a new one (PLEASE?Toyota?:D)

Take the deal or don't-that's all you are going to get from Ruger.

Normal wear through extensive use is not covered by any warranty anywhere-especially when any competition with the item concerned is revealed to have been done.
 
B.N.Real This is all internet guesstimation so just take it for as worthless as it is.

1.you admitted that you changed out springs in the gun from stock.

2.you used the gun in competitions

3.you state that 95% were 38 special rounds but are'nt you required that you shoot 357 in your steel match competitions?

3.your round count goes to 50,000-so Ruger is looking at 50,000 round (probably plus because you cannot say what the round count actually is within 25,000 rounds!) used handgun that they must think have been fired using hot loaded 357 rounds all it's life.

4.There is probably enough wear in the gun so that Ruger's gunsmiths concur that it is not safe for them to fix for you- hence.

5.They told all this to Ruger's corporate arm and through it's lawyers,the only thing they could do for you on this well used revolver is offer you a great deal on another revolver you can wear out in a decade of competition shooting.

Bottom line-the gun is worn out-you wore it out-you enjoyed wearing it out and now you can get a great deal on another Ruger revolver that will serve you well that you can again-wear out.

I drive a Toyota that has 220,000 miles on it that I have run the 'stink' out of everyday for 11 years-will Toyota give me a new motor and transmission if I turn it in and say it's worn out?

Heck,they won't give me a half price deal on a new one (PLEASE?Toyota?)

Take the deal or don't-that's all you are going to get from Ruger.

Normal wear through extensive use is not covered by any warranty anywhere-especially when any competition with the item concerned is revealed to have been done.
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OK, now were just being redundant.

Problem solved.
 
If I've spent that much time and money shooting a gun, it gets heirloom status. I wonder if Ruger will let him keep the original revolver.
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No way they will let him keep the original! Why? Because of the possibility that it could be transferred (sold, stolen, given away, inherited) to someone else who would then send it back to Ruger, expecting it to be fixed...!

Unless of course, they returned it with the provision that it "was for display purposes only, and not to be fired" and they kept a record of the serial number to ensure that they would never work on it in the future.

In other words, probably - almost certainly - not.
 
Most manufacturers do not want liability exposure from sending out a known unsafe weapon. Somebody might shoot it, and harm himself or others.
 
I'm last in with the horse beaten dead and drawing flies but we're here to share our knowledge and experiences so here I go:

The GP101 is simply the model number for the blued version of the 357 with the 4" barrel. Each variation is technically a different model number. The website will give info for each variant.
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The model number for the Ruger GP100, blued, six-shot, 4.2" barrel, .357 Magnum is GP141. The stainless is the KGP-141 in the same barrel length. The GP series is the midsized frame DA revolvers, the SP series, which bears the '101' numbers, is the compact DA revolver series from Ruger.

Now we come to a part of the OPs second or third post that I was flabbergasted with and couldn't believe no one called him on:

Purchased the GP100 new from a dealer. Before even firing the revolver I checked the cylinder gap. 0.003" on one side and 0.009" on the other side. Sent it back and it came back at 0.006" and 0.006". The revolver was never 100% reliable.
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Yet you not only purchased it, sir, you who have been shooting Ruger since 1970-something used it in competition. Really? When I have an issue with a Ruger, which does happen, I get on the phone and speak to someone in customer service and get a call tag and send it back for repair or replacement. I do not rant about how lousy a company is after I buy a machine that I thought lacking in the first place and then proceed to wring said machine out thoroughly and demand a new one gratis.

You might consider as others have stated and buy yourself a different brand.
 
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OK, I think we've seen enough of the OP taking a beating here. He accepted Ruger's offer and we can refrain from the dogpiling.

Let's move forward, shall we?
 
Rugers are tuff but at 50K rounds any revolver ,would and should give up the ghost..I'm sure Ruger was gonna sell you a new GP100 at 389.00 ,instead of a fix that may or may not be safe after 25 K rounds...I'd be very happy with the offer.....

Only one gun company that i know of would repair or send you a new revolver .that would be Charter Arms...
 
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