Smith and Wesson serial number search

New to me..but how old is my 3913 ?

I picked up what looks like a little used 9 mm S&W Mdl 3913, and the serial no is.... TZF5083 ....would some one please tell me what year have I got ?
Also I found that the trigger pull is well over 12#'s and while I can shoot my GI .45 into 1-2" at 25 yards, I can't squeeze off this 3913 even into an 8" sometimes 12" group, missing the 2'x2' target at times! Is the pull supposed to be this terrible, and have 3/8+" play ?
Thanks , Dan
 
kingofcoins, I can't help you with gunsmithing questions, ask in the gunsmithing subforum. Regarding your serial number, TVC7046 was used in 1991, TZUxxxx in 1993, so your gun falls somewhere in between.

occ33: Serial number C68xxxx should fall in the period 1963-1965, between C622700 and C810532. The model number stamped on the frame under the crane should be 10, 11, 12, or 45. Barrel length measured from the forcing cone to the muzzle should be 4 inches. If the barrel length is 3.5 inches it may not be OEM. What caliber is the gun?
 
K22??

I too am having trouble identifying my gun. It was just given to me as a hand me down that is in really good condition. From the gun book i have it seems to look the most like a K22 in a 22LR. There are 3 different sets of numbers on it. Bottom of the butt and both sides of the grip. I can post the numbers if anyone can help?? I am curious of it's age and history. Thanks
 
I too am having trouble identifying my gun... it seems to look the most like a K22 in a 22LR. There are 3 different sets of numbers on it. Bottom of the butt and both sides of the grip.
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The serial number is the one on the bottom of the butt. Some pictures will help with ID because there's a possibility that it's an I or J frame, which would make it a .22/32 rather than a K-22. A "K" somewhere in the serial number nails it down as a K-22, and a "J" nails it down as a J frame. (Who'd a thunk?) ;)
i found it. it is ACV32xx
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Mid-1983. Very close to my 586-M no-dash, which is ABE10xx. :)
 
I picked up what looks like a little used 9 mm S&W Mdl 3913, and the serial no is.... TZF5083 ....would some one please tell me what year have I got ?
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1990-1991.
Also I found that the trigger pull is well over 12#'s... I can't squeeze off this 3913 even into an 8" sometimes 12" group... Is the pull supposed to be this terrible, and have 3/8+" play ?
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I'm a bit confused... does this trigger problem occur when firing DA or SA? The DA trigger should be somewhat lighter, maybe 10#, but I could see 12# if the gun's trigger mechanism is a bit sticky. The SA trigger is a 2-stage type that should have some takeup at the start of the pull, but it should have a fairly crisp (if not quite SIG- or tuned-1911-crisp) ~6# break after you get past the takeup.

The accuracy problem is a little harder to figure out. How does it group at short range? Have you tried shooting it off a sandbag rest or letting someone else try it out? Can you hold it perfectly steady while dry-firing?

This is a bit off-topic, so I'd recommend reposting this in the "Semiauto" TFL subforum or the "S&W Smithing" section of the S&W forum.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/580103904

Also, S&W has excellent customer service and will probably fix the gun for free if something is wrong, although you'll probably have to pay to ship it to them first.
 
i am looking at two smith 5 screw guns....
pre model number.... they both look like Model 10's... I am assuming they are M&Ps....

38 Special # 2G 739XX
38 S&W # 5046X

Any ideal of the age... and any ideal if these were available in nickle?

thanks
 
Trying to figure out a date

My father in law has recently been given a smith and wesson revolver. We are trying to date it. It's a .32 Cal with a SN: 1029xx It has a 4in barrel. We can't find anyting on it was wondering if anyone here could help us?
 
I just picked up a S&W 32DA 4th Model, ser# 63XXX. Great little gun, 3 1/2" barrel, 98% plus nickel, matching numbers, original grips w/logo and strong checkering. Can anyone tell me the year it was made?
 
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rickga: The .32 Double Action 4th model was made between 1883 & 1909 in the serial number range 43406 to 282999. Models made before serial number 209301 in 1898 are considered antiques by the BATF. To get an exact shipping date (and address) you would need to contact Roy Jinks at S&W and pay a fee of $50 to get a factory letter.
For the purposes of guesstimating your guns age, 22,232 3rd models were made between 1882 & 1883. Your gun is approximately 21,000 later in the serial number range, so if production levels remained constant your 4th model may have been made around 1884-1885.
 
bsi022604: There have been many S&W 32s and the serial numbers can be duplicated.
Is the caliber .32 rimfire, .32 S&W or .32 S&W long?
Is is a tip up barrel, break top (tip down barrel) or swing out cylinder?
Does it have an exposed hammer or a concealed hammer?
are the grips back hard rubber, timber or something else?

Answer the above and I should be able to identify it.
 
Sako: There is no 2g prefix listed in the Standard Catalogue of S&W. Is the stamping the same as the rest of the serial number? If the serial number is 739xx then it is a .38 special model of 1905 4th change, probably manufactured between 1940 & 1942.The 4th change was produced from 1917 to 1942. To help refine it down, S&W made the British service revolver concurrently in the same serial number range of 700000 to 1000000 during this period.

I assume the .38 S&W has a five shot cylinder on a smaller frame than the .38 special, if so then it is either a prewar .38 Regulation Police. These were made between 1917 & 1940, in a serial number range 1 - 54474. The round butt .38/22 Terrier variant was introduced in 1936 at serial number 38976, so your gun should date from 1936-1940.
 
bsi022604: Process of elimination follows:
It isn't a .32 Rimfire, the Number 2 Old Army didn't go that high in the serial range.
It isn't a .32 Single Action, ditto as above.
It isn't a New Model Number Three, ditto as above.
It isn't a K32 Masterpiece, as it lacks the K serial number prefix.
It isn't a K32 Hand Ejector as their serial number range is higher than the number you quote.
It isn't a .32 Military & Police, they have a C or S prefix tot he serial number.

That leaves the following options:

It could be a .32 Double Action 4th Model, serial number range was 43406 to 282999, manufactured between 1883 & 1909. This was a top break five shot revolver with an external hammer, caliber was .32 S&W.

It could be a .32 Safety Hammerless Second Model, serial number range was 91418 to 170000, manufactured between 1902 & 1909. This was a top break five shot revolver with an internal hammer and a grip safety. Caliber was .32 S&W.

It could be a .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1903 - 5th Change. This was a six shot swing out cylinder revolver on the small I frame, similar in size to today's model 60. It came with a 4.25 inch or 3.25 inch barrel, caliber was .32 S&W Long. Manufactured between 1910 & 1917 in the serial number range 102501 to 263000 between 1910 and 1917, if this is your father-in-law's gun it probably dates to 1910.

It could be a 32-20 Hand Ejector Model of 1905 - 4th Change. This was a 6 shot swing out cylinder gun chambered for the .32-20 cartridge, using the square butt medium sized K-frame. Barrel marking should be .32 W.C.F CTG.
These were manufactured between 1915 & 1940 in the serial number range 65701 to 144684.

If it doesn't fit any of the above categories then a photo will be needed to identify it.
 
radagast, thanks for getting back to me so fast! I appreciate it. I know NOTHING about guns! lol As soon as my father in law gets it out again I'll take a picture and send it to you.
 
Hey carguychris

The serial number does have a K in it. It is 33K8349. Can you give me any other info?? It would surely be appreciated..
 
Peeve88: Your gun was made in 1978-79 in the serial number range 25k0001 to 56k9999. It is built on the K frame, S&Ws medium frame that has remained in production since 1899 in a variety of models and calibers. The majority of police and service revolvers from the last century were built on the K frame. What you have was designed as a target or training gun.

If it has a four inch barrel with a ramped front sight, then it is a Model 18 K22 Combat Masterpiece. This was basically a .22lr version of the very popular model 15 service revolver in .38 special. Think cheap practice and a great holster gun for walking around on a farm or in the woods.

If it has a 6 inch or 8 &3/8 inch barrel with a square cut Partridge sight then it is a Model 17 K22 Masterpiece. This is the .22 target version of the K38 Target Masterpiece revolver popular at the time for centerfire bullseye competition, The K22 & K38 .were designed to have the same weight and balance for ease of cross training.

The K22 has been in production in various forms since 1931, when it was introduced as the K32 Outdoorsman, it continues today in a much modified form as the 617 in stainless steel with a full length barrel under-lug and the option of a ten round cylinder.

The model 18 was produced from 1949 to 1985, when the four inch Model 17 was introduced. A four inch stainless steel model 617 is still available and S&W are offering the reintroduced model 18 Classic this year - if you have a thousand dollars to spend. :P
 
S&W Model 10-10 Age?

Serial # on the butt is BHH 81XX. Is there anything you can tell me about this gun? Wonder about age (imagine its fairly recent) and sale price.

Thank you for any info you can provide :confused:

More Information:

4"barrel; square-bottomed wooden grip
 
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WonderingWoman: The Serial number prefix BHE was used in March 1991, the prefix BHJ in July 1991, so your guns date of manufacture should fall between those two dates. Some of the three letter codes were manufactured out of date sequence, but it's a fair bet that your gun dates to that period.

The model 10-10 is the 10th engineering change to the model 10, which was the model number given in 1957 to the .38 Military & Police revolver. The .38 military & Police was the evolution through many engineering changes and two world wars of the .38 special Army & Navy Revolver introduced in 1899.

It is a fixed sight blued or nickeled steel revolver with a swing out cylinder built on the medium K frame. Caliber was .38 special, except for a small number chambered for and marked as .357 Magnum. The 10-10 was introduced in 1988.

The model 10 in all it's variations was probably the most common police service revolver in the world and only lost favor when semiautomatic pistols became more common. The model 10 is still in production today.

As to value, the Standard catalog of S&W gave a value of $365 for as new in box & $275 for excellent (used) condition in 2006. Prices seem to have shifted a lot since then so I suggest you check out sites such as www.gunbroker.com www.auctionarms.com or www.gunsamerica.com to find out more current pricing. If you sell it to a dealer you will not get a retail price, they will discount the amount they pay you so they can sell it for a profit.
 
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