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Sir;
No legitamate sporting weapon or sportsman ever needs a silencer.
And, I agree it is improper and immature to post such on a public forum.
Harry B.
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You are factually incorrect and an enemy of shooters and the 2nd Amendment. That is all.

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Illegal in NC period.

10. any muffler or silencer for any firearm, whether or not such firearm is
included within this definition; and
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I didn't think they were legal anywhere. I suspect that is what Harry was thinking also.

If you have a logical reason for their use other than covering a crime, such as ear protection or not aggravating the neighbors, fine. But, attacking Harry who probably knows more about firearms than most any ten of us shows your intelligence.
 
Zero,
No attacks here. Just kinda let down is all.
You think you’ve gotten the feel of someone
through their posts over the years and they
pull a Jim Zumbo on ya.......
 
If you have a logical reason for their use other than covering a crime, such as ear protection or not aggravating the neighbors, fine.

Why do I have to have a "logical reason" to own a can as long as they are legal in my state? Do I now have to have a "logical reason" to own a AR15, AK47, Barrett .50 cal "sniper" rifle?

Do I have to have a "logical reason" to have 2 cars, or 3 cars and a truck?

Give me a break here, your "logic" about this issue ranks right up there with the Brady bunch's anti gun reasoning.
 
Do I now have to have a "logical reason
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No. You don't have to have a logical reason to do anything.

But, most men out of diapers have a logical reason to attack somebody who has a different opinion.
 
I'd like a silencer, but for me it's just not worth the legal hassle... While I see folks get all hot and bothered about silencers on firearms, I note they don't seem to have any qualms about the natural silence of my bow and arrow.:rolleyes:


I do wonder,however, about the noise levels ie. how silent does a round have to be to be illegal? I know of some very potent air guns and arrows and certain subsonic loads - so when does the 'silence' become illegal?
 
I do wonder,however, about the noise levels ie. how silent does a round have to be to be illegal? I know of some very potent air guns and arrows and certain subsonic loads - so when does the 'silence' become illegal
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When you have a device which diminishes the report of a firearm. Air guns are not firearms. Arrows are not firearms. Simply shooting low power loads do not comprise a "device".
"The terms `firearm silencer' and `firearm muffler' mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication."
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I didn't think they were legal anywhere. I suspect that is what Harry was thinking also.

If you have a logical reason for their use other than covering a crime, such as ear protection or not aggravating the neighbors, fine. But, attacking Harry who probably knows more about firearms than most any ten of us shows your intelligence.
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Umm...Yeah...About that.

Obviously Harry-who-probably-knows-more-about-firearms DOESN'T know that while restricted, they are indeed legal in the majority of the US.

Check it out, in 1934 the infringing NFA (National Firearms act) was passed, restricting certain types of guns & accessories to a $200 tax and relatively strict scrutiny. This basically put a damper on machineguns, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, and silencers as $200 was a great deal of money at the time. Fast forward 50+ years and it's not so much.

Later, in 1986, another infringement was passed restricting the manufacture of new machineguns. Silencers on the other hand, remained legal under federal law. However, a few states have restricted NFA guns & devices but the tide is turning as a few states are actually striking down their state laws and allowing toys such as these.


But law aside, what in the name of Sam Hill is wrong with you folks demanding "logical reasons" & what not? What a downright European thing to say. You ought to be ashamed.
 
Obviously Harry-who-probably-knows-more-about-firearms DOESN'T know that while restricted, they are indeed legal in the majority of the US.
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I am pleased to hear that. Can you cite your source of information. It would be interesting to know for future reference. Thank you.
 
I am pleased to hear that. Can you cite your source of information. It would be interesting to know for future reference. Thank you.
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You can google for a variety of queries including "silencers legal in states" and "nfa faq" to find the information.
 
But, most men out of diapers have a logical reason to attack somebody who has a different opinion.
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It's not a different opinion that they're attacking.

You know how you hear the stories about people out at dinner (or where ever) that are open carrying, then some weenie calls the police on them because, *gasp*, they have a gun!?

You know that feeling how on one hand you'd like to educate the weenies and teach them the error of their ways, but on the other hand you just want to slap them mercilessly until they grow a set and stop acting like...well...weenies?


Well with those people we can rationalize, "They're just ignorant weenies, not worth our time or rise in blood pressure."

What are we supposed to think & say to our own, the pro gun people?
 
Mister Wilson, I could not care less about silencers one way or the other. Harry doesn't think much of them so you attack with your little adolescent cartoon, I suppose because you could not think of any words at the time. If your last response has been your first less the typical smart a$$ first and last paragraph I would have had nothing to say on the subject

Excuse me, next to last.
 
Zak, the first site I googled which was Gemtech showed NC as being a legal state which they obviously are not as I posted the law. So, anybody should double check with whatever authorities.
 
Wow, after reading this thread, it makes me wonder if the majority of the membership here knows that the NFA section of this site even exists.

Zak Smith about Harry Bonar said:
You are factually incorrect and an enemy of shooters and the 2nd Amendment. That is all
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I couldn't agree more. Like Zumbo, why on Earth would one shooter try to make life harder for another shooter simply because he doesn't agree with the second shooter's interests? I swear, we can be our own worst enemy sometimes...

Mr. Bonar, I am genuinely interested in learning why you feel the way you do about this subject. You can PM me if you like, but I'd really like to pick your brain...
 
My apologies to all. I just take great offense when I hear the words & phrases of the Brady bunch being parroted by "pro-gun" folks.
 
zerojunk said:
Zak, the first site I googled which was Gemtech showed NC as being a legal state which they obviously are not as I posted the law. So, anybody should double check with whatever authorities.
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Go to a site like NC.gov and look up that law yourself. Be sure to read the opening paragraphs of the criminal code that holds that law. You may find some kind of exemption listed for properly registered items. FOUND IT!

North Carolina Criminal Code said:
NC 14-288.8
The only persons capable of owning or possessing a weapon of mass death and destruction, as defined above, are the following:

1.Persons exempted from the provisions of carrying a concealed weapon in North Carolina with respect to any activity lawfully engaged in while carrying out their duties;

2.Importers, manufacturers, dealers, and collectors of firearms, ammunition, or destructive devices validly licensed under the laws of the United States or the State of North Carolina, while lawfully engaged in activities authorized under their licenses;
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The part in red is the important part that authorizes posession. It should be noted, however, that the only acceptable answer on the Form1 or 4 for the reason you need to posess the weapon is "research and development", whether or not you intend to research or develop anything...
 
Go to a site like NC.gov and look up that law yourself. Be sure to read the opening paragraphs of the criminal code that holds that law. You may find some kind of exemption listed for properly registered items.
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I did. It's in my first post.

Importers, manufacturers, dealers, and collectors of firearms, ammunition, or destructive devices validly licensed under the laws of the United States or the State of North Carolina, while lawfully engaged in activities authorized under their licenses;
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I saw that. But, for all practical purposes they are illegal for most or at best you are at the mercy of the officer, prosecutor, and judge.
 
Zerojunk,
Zak, the first site I googled which was Gemtech showed NC as being a legal state which they obviously are not as I posted the law. So, anybody should double check with whatever authorities.
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Illegal in NC period.
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You're wrong about NC. I know several people who possess legal suppressors in NC.
 
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