Should I dump the .40S&W?

I was in the exact same spot as you a couple of month's back-I have a MP40 and HAD a MP shield 40.After a couple of range trips with both guns I couldn't handle the recoil of the 40 shield so on a whim I sold her off but kept my MP40fullsize but now I see the new mp40 shield with the porting and it will take all of me not to buy that one. So my advice just keep it and do what I should of done and worked a little more with it at the range.
 
Would it be safe to fire 10mm ammo out of a gun designed for .40? I could see going the other way and firing .40 out of a 10mm gun but didn't know the reverse could be done safely.* * *

Dude, what are you talking about? Seriously?

Only a idiot would try lighting-off a 10mm round in a pistol chambered for the 40S&W. It's bad enough the .40 S&W has become the most Kaboom!-prone auto cartridge ever invented, but it's worse if you try to jam its big brother into the chamber.
 
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Dude, what are you talking about? Seriously?

Only a idiot would try lighting-off a 10mm round in a pistol chambered for the 40S&W. It's bad enough the .40 S&W has become the most Kaboom!-prone auto cartridge ever invented, but it's worse if you try to jam its big brother into the chamber.

Dude, did you read the whole thread? Seriously?

Someone said you could convent a .40 into a 10mm. I questioned that.

Also, since we're on the subject can you produce peer reviewed evidence that of this statement?: "It's bad enough the .40 S&W has become the most Kaboom!-prone auto cartridge ever invented"
 
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Someone said you could convent a 40 into a 10mm. I questioned that.

Never heard of nuns in the convent "converting" their .40 pistols to 10mm, but I suppose anything's possible. :D

Seriously, though, in the past there've been numerous threads on various boards on how to do a .40--->10mm conversion on certain makes/models of .40 pistols, provided that the .40 magazine was, or could be made, compatible with the COAL of the 10mm.

For example, the old Mauser M2s in .40. These were also made in .45acp, but the mag well dimensions were the same. Ambitious owners discovered you could have a 'smith ream out the .40 chamber to 10 specs, and then use the .45acp M2 mags for the 10mm cartridges, once you tweaked (narrowed) the feed lips a bit. Since breech-face dimensions for the .40 cartridge are the same as for 10mm, the M2's extractor and ejector worked fine. Posters who did this conversion also mentioned upgrading the M2's f.p. & recoil springs with Wolff XPs.

Years ago, on the old Pistolsmith board, there were several threads running on .40--->10mm conversions on makes of pistols never made in 10mm by the factory. The M2 was one. Another was one of the HK .40 models - I forget which, but it was probably the full-size .40, not the compact. Anyway, the basic conversion process was similar. Try your google-foo if you want more info.

About this time (say, early-to-mid 2000s), there was interest in converting Sig .45acp P220s to 10mm. Master pistolsmith Bruce Gray (of GrayGuns) found that a reliable and durable conversion was feasible, but only on stainless P220s. He began converting quite a number of these to 10mm (using a new 10mm barrel - from Bar-Sto, I believe) on customer-supplied SS 220s and their magazines. And although quite pricey, his work was fabulous, judging by the resulting on-line reviews. These Gray-converted 220s ran fine in 10mm.

It was several of these Gray 220s that Sig obtained and examined in later deciding to produce a factory 10mm P220, ... four of them actually.

Also, since we're on the subject can you produce peer reviewed evidence that of this statement?: "It's bad enough the .40 S&W has become the most Kaboom!-prone auto cartridge ever invented"

Dude, google-foo is your friend. ;)

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I guess the real question is does the extra recoil of .40 S&W worth it over the 9mm?

In a pure ccw I'd say yes, in a ccw that you want to enjoy shooting at the rage I'd say no.

The Glock 27 is as small as I'll go in 40, below that is 9mm territory.

The line for me is that a ccw needs to "tolerable" enough to stay sharp with.
I don't mean standing dead still trying for bullseyes, instead I mean tolerable enough to get through 3-5 magazines of drawing from a holster and putting two in a paper plate at a few yards.
If you can't put two in the plate (quickly), or you can't get through a few mags of sd-level practice ammo, then you need a bigger ccw or the same in 9mm.

40 in a 9mm sized sub-compact was never intended to be pleasant, fun or comfortable to shoot.
Instead its meant to put 45-class power into a very small all-day-every-day carry package.
 
The Glock 27 is as small as I'll go in 40, below that is 9mm territory.

The line for me is that a ccw needs to "tolerable" enough to stay sharp with.

My lightest .40 is an XD subcompact. Still pretty chunky at 32oz loaded. Much lighter (as, for an unrandom example, the XDS), and I'll go with a nine.
 
Dump 40S&W

I never got on that bandwagon. I do not think I missed anything by not jumping. For me 9x19 works.
 
Originally Posted by lee n. field View Post
Haven't seen anything, so I'm not sure where you've posted that.

Shield -- safety or no?
It's the safety model for the shield. It's on armslist.

Can't sell guns on Facebook anymore -.-

Hey, if you don't manage to sell one or the other, I've got a Limbsaver brand rubber grip sleeve that might help.

Soft rubber, I got it to try to tame my PF9. It was rather loose on the PF9, but might work better on something fatter. I've got nothing else right now that it makes any sense to use it with.
 
Hey, if you don't manage to sell one or the other, I've got a Limbsaver brand rubber grip sleeve that might help.

Soft rubber, I got it to try to tame my PF9. It was rather loose on the PF9, but might work better on something fatter. I've got nothing else right now that it makes any sense to use it with.
I might take you up on that. I have not had much luck selling my full size M&p so far.
 
I never got on that bandwagon. I do not think I missed anything by not jumping. For me 9x19 works.

I wanted to have at least one gun in .40 just as a backstop against another 9mm ammo shortage. So when I found a gently used Gen 4 Glock 27 cheap, I bought it and immediately put a 40 - 9 LW conversion barrel in it.

I now have enough 9mm ammo stored up that I should be able to make it through a shortage without being too stingy on my practice rounds. But I'm glad to have something to shoot in .40 just in case.
 
OP if you haven't sold your shield yet you might try these, I shot them in my PPS and recoil wasnt bad.
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OP if you haven't sold your shield yet you might try these, I shot them in my PPS and recoil wasnt bad.

Well now it's past the point of no return. I have the Shield spoken for, and the money towards it is going towards my new CZ-85B.

Someone is offering me a 9mm Shield for my full size M&P now too... not sure how I feel about that.
 
Well now it's past the point of no return. I have the Shield spoken for, and the money towards it is going towards my new CZ-85B.

Someone is offering me a 9mm Shield for my full size M&P now too... not sure how I feel about that.

Cool might look at a 85 Combat too if you can find one. and I agree I'd want a $50 bill to swap.
 
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