SCOTUS: Cities may seize homes at will... Kelo v. New London (merged)
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Not only that but if you live in an extremely modest (lower class) development, like I do, that is surrounded by new $500,000 to $1,5000,000 homes and they're running out of swamp land to build in, a developer can come in and convince the mayor that he can increase the tax base by decreasing the number of poor people and claim your neighborhood for the greater good.
This can be done without the usual price negotiations when buying someone's property.
No, this is the result of some developer that wanted to build a business complex and hotel in a neighborhood where some of the people had been living and building their lives for 50 years and inconsiderately refused to sell
As of late? Marbury v. Madison was in what, 1803? Dred Scott ws in what, 1857?
And there are folks who just can't wait for the 2nd to reach SCOTUS...
For all the excoriation of Scalia and Thomas on this forum, let's look at who the dissenters were in this case. Until there are more Scalias and Thomases on the Court, I don't want a 2nd Amendment case to even get near this tribunal of robed monkeys.
Glenn E. Meyer
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Attention, Attention - you have just found out that the core rulers of the country care most about big business profit!!
Ain't that a surprise. You thought it was about social conservative values?
Ain't that a surprise. You thought it was about social conservative values?
If the ruling bothers you, http://www.ij.org/
You need to know that I didn't start to wake up, get interested in politics, constitutional rights, and a whole gamut of other things until the infamous date of 9/11. Therefore I have not had the opportunity to research and study all case law, especially that which took place in 1803.Romulus said:
Unfortunately, it took something such as this to burst my bubble and begin the transition from sheeple, to shepard. So you can either crusify me or welcome me to the fold.
I don't think SCOTUS should touch the 2nd amendment. They can't demonstrate intelligence regarding the 5th.
I think your pointing out something worse - and that I didn't consider. That is: all it takes is "some developer" to do you injustice.... not just the government.joab said:
Our SCOTUS has just set the conditions for boat loads of money to now be sent to local politicians. It will institutionalize corruptions all in the name of campaign contributions. Zoning commissioners will be the target of protection money from all sides of the community. Those wanting to live out their lives in an ancestoral home will have to pay protection money to the planning mafia. Developers will have to get busy and become really good supports at the local level.
Lawyers will multiply like fruit flys in response to this new market.
Sad day for personal freedom and property rights.
Lawyers will multiply like fruit flys in response to this new market.
Sad day for personal freedom and property rights.
The law of imminent domain has existed for decades. Why have we allowed it to get so far out of hand?, and why is just now that people are angered about it?
It goes to the same principal as cooking frogs. Throw them in hot water they jump out. Slowly heat the water, and they don't realize that they are soon not going to be able to jump out of the water.
It goes to the same principal as cooking frogs. Throw them in hot water they jump out. Slowly heat the water, and they don't realize that they are soon not going to be able to jump out of the water.
I got off work this morning. Went to bed before the decision was published (I checked... I check every day). Got up a couple of hours ago to read about this decision in an email alert.
I have only browsed the decision, as yet. My initial reaction is that both sides were wrong... That is, the Majorities decision was wrong for making USE = Purpose; and the Dissent was right, but for the wrong reasons.
I will say that this was to be expected, and as expected, it is another disaster for Liberty.
A day or so to collect my thoughts and write them up.
I have only browsed the decision, as yet. My initial reaction is that both sides were wrong... That is, the Majorities decision was wrong for making USE = Purpose; and the Dissent was right, but for the wrong reasons.
I will say that this was to be expected, and as expected, it is another disaster for Liberty.
A day or so to collect my thoughts and write them up.
Frosted.....
I'm sure this will get me on the shi* list but do we plan on letting this take place without a fight........ Do we?
Well, I sure as heck plan on digging in and doing what I can........Lets all start calling our political reps and let them know they better get busy fighting too. I think it has come time that the little man (as I consider myself and my friends and like) to step up and let the others understand we have had enough. No, I can't stop a wrecking crew by myself but they sure might reason with the neighborhood behind me....
I am sick and tired of getting told how I should continue to watch things go in a downward plunge. Just except it as change and that is the way things go........... I say Bullshi* and it's time to grab the political bull by it's weak little horn.
Lets get busy raising the flag of concern and work this thing back to common ground........before it's out of total control........
We have come too far in this country to let a few in high places rewrite what the founding fathers started. Seems the reason we came to this country was to be free of such rule.....
***Bravo, start at the top.... I stated that to a point if the better of society was at hand it was true the interstate was going through farmer Tom's place. It sucked and sure wasn't right for Tom. The issue I bring up is private party forced out by other ($)private party....... Sir, this is a big difference to me........ If I missed your point I'm sorry
Frogs?
I'm sure this will get me on the shi* list but do we plan on letting this take place without a fight........ Do we?
Well, I sure as heck plan on digging in and doing what I can........Lets all start calling our political reps and let them know they better get busy fighting too. I think it has come time that the little man (as I consider myself and my friends and like) to step up and let the others understand we have had enough. No, I can't stop a wrecking crew by myself but they sure might reason with the neighborhood behind me....
I am sick and tired of getting told how I should continue to watch things go in a downward plunge. Just except it as change and that is the way things go........... I say Bullshi* and it's time to grab the political bull by it's weak little horn.
Lets get busy raising the flag of concern and work this thing back to common ground........before it's out of total control........
We have come too far in this country to let a few in high places rewrite what the founding fathers started. Seems the reason we came to this country was to be free of such rule.....
***Bravo, start at the top.... I stated that to a point if the better of society was at hand it was true the interstate was going through farmer Tom's place. It sucked and sure wasn't right for Tom. The issue I bring up is private party forced out by other ($)private party....... Sir, this is a big difference to me........ If I missed your point I'm sorry
Frogs?
It has always been used for the public good, the aforementioned highways for example, or in the name of progress.
Now it is being perverted into a negotiating tool for private industry such as Wal-Mart and hoteliers.
If you think that people are just now getting upset about this you haven't been paying attention. This has been heating up for awhile. But it is the law of the land. If big business wants your homestead you can either go quietly or fortify and wait for reinforcements.
This action is worse than any of the watered down gun grabs ever perpetrated.
This is a blatant "screw you Joe Nobody" from the highest court in the land
If nobody has noticed until now the war has started and we the people are losing.
Where are we finally going to draw the line?
That frog syndrome theory is starting to make a whole lot of sense
I know this is rambling but I'm finally officially pissed
Ben Shepherd
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I hate to say it, but I think people will die before this is over.
You have people in that area that go back 5-6 generations that have no intention of leaving because it is thier identity!!!
No amount of money can make up for that!!!!!!
You have people in that area that go back 5-6 generations that have no intention of leaving because it is thier identity!!!
No amount of money can make up for that!!!!!!"***Bravo, start at the top.... I stated that to a point if the better of society was at hand it was true the interstate was going through farmer Tom's place. It sucked and sure wasn't right for Tom. The issue I bring up is private party forced out by other ($)private party....... Sir, this is a big difference to me........ If I missed your point I'm sorry
Frogs?"
I got that. The problem is that those with money or political connections get to exploit these laws for personal gain. This I should have further stated in my original post.
Frogs?"
I got that. The problem is that those with money or political connections get to exploit these laws for personal gain. This I should have further stated in my original post.
No city/county/state government is even going to look at our land....
And, when I say stand I mean just that. A stand against those attempting to steal someones land. If it comes to that, hopefully a non violent approach will prevent it(camping out and fighting with the pen). If not, well God save us and the once great Republic of the United States of America. I will not bow to tyranny.
And, when I say stand I mean just that. A stand against those attempting to steal someones land. If it comes to that, hopefully a non violent approach will prevent it(camping out and fighting with the pen). If not, well God save us and the once great Republic of the United States of America. I will not bow to tyranny.