Mannlicher
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Doug38pr, do you stay awake at night thinking up these off the wall scenerios?
The key issue is your goal state. Mine is to survive along with my family.
The initial poster had saving material positions as a close to equally important priority.
The initial poster also decided to start the thread with Something doesn't go the way of the "poor" and "oppressed." .
I regard that as irrelevant baiting. One might has easily have said that you are a minority and a racist mob is coming to your house. This has in fact happened. African-american men defended their homes and let their families escape.
Thus, one has to discuss mind set and motive. This is a common discussion in most tactical classes. Even the initial poster had posited in most civilian training classes that he would not take an opportunity to flee because:
Your life is more than just the beating of your heart. They say a man's home is his castle, I say stay and fight for it. .
It would not be judged as a judicious act and probably as posturing.
The only sensible solution to such a situation is:
1. Your priority is you and your family's physical safety.
2. Chose the option that optimizes it.
3. If your action saves your stuff, that is nice but epiphenomenological.
One trains to have the ability to use lethal force - as a tool for saving your butt first.
Orginize the neighborhood?????
Oh, give me a break. I won't like to lose my house but you are just posturing.
I would give my house a 1000 times over if I get my wife and kid to safety. Anybody who doesn't see that is an idiot, to be blunt.
Also, you did play the race card and posture. Tough if you don't buy it.
I'm a psychologist (prof) and I understand hidden motivations, Doug and for our readers, you have a consistent tendency not to evaluate the best outcome of situations but continually go for a gun based solution even if it is clearly not in your best interest. You need to work on this. I hate to be harsh but that's what I read. I see you wanting to be the hero that organizes the neighborhood against the 'poor' and 'oppressed'.
In your scenario, if I have 30 minutes to get out of the way of a major riot with unknown numbers and weaponery - while I do have significant firearms - I'm gone.
If I knew that fleeing was dangerous and I had sufficient time for a realistic defense - not a fantasy - I might like the Korean merchants defend my property. Your scenario is a get out of Dodge one - unless fleeing is more risky to my life.
Do you have children? Name for me one physical position that is worth a child. I went through a significant life threatener last year with my daughter. If you told me, I could gurantee her life by burning my house to the ground - give me the matches. If Satan told me to put you inside when it burned, I would have done that.
Now, I'm faced with a mob but I could get her and the wife to safety. NO, I'm going to stay there and fight it out for the couch and my computer. What pure stupidity.
BTW, you can backup your computer externally and off site. You can buy a new Dell for $399.
Get in front of the crowd and chant "ImHoTep, ImHoTep".....Worked in "The Mummy".....
I think people are still missing the point here. Ask anyone who has been in or near a riot if they think its a good idea to leave the house while the riot is occuring. I am saying I would stay home and defend it because I believe its safer, and as a secondary reason to protect my things. If I had equal chances either way I would stay home for that reason. No one wants to get killed over replaceable objects.