New York State Gun Control - Passed!

I hope the Remington plant in Ilion just up and leaves. The loss of 3k some odd jobs won't look good. They threatened to leave before the microstamping bill was passed, and that didn't work. Maybe this will get fixed if they throw their weight around.
 
MSN is reporting that Bloomberg is calling the NY Law ," ... an example for Washington." I humbly call upon all you New Yorkers to vote these antigun politicians out of office openly and vocally as an example to Washington. The next thing that happens after mandatory registration of arms is the State collecting said arms. I will not be purchasing anything from NY again. I think you folks can kiss Remington and their money goodbye. I feel sorry for all of you. Move to the Heartland if you can.
 
Northeast has too many people who are socialist and do not even know it. Growing up there I regularly heard this said "the role of government is to provide services and keep people safe." Was not until after I left I realized how crazy this was. The only option for lawful gun owners is to move or hide your guns.
 
So... apart from IPSC classic & revolver division, and USPSA single stack, are action shooting sports now basically dead in NY state?
 
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Reading the law and came across assault pistol requirements. Besides the normal, no folding stocks, thumb holes, etc was the rule that any pistol capable of accepting a second handle to a threaded barrel was banned. I know you can attach a handle to mount points on some pistols with forward rails, but is it common to have these threaded to the barrel?

Also best of luck figuring out this bill.

Background checks on ammo purchases is insane. Did not read close enough to see about importing, might be able to drive to PA and buy. No mail order for sure.
 
Regarding the vidja games...put a troubled person in front of them for years and years and of course they will become both desensitized to violence and disconnected from reality to some extent.

Its a culture/community problem though. That crazy 19 year old jacked up on psychotic meds for years and killing zombie after zombie on TV just needs an intact family, some friends to get him out of the house (go skateboarding or something) and in general needs a community that knows each other and genuinely cares about each other.

So no, video games shouldn't be banned any more than firearms. Problem is gubmint can't grow in size and power in a climate where we have actual families and real community.

To those of you in NY, hopefully things can be overturned in court. For those of us in free states we can't sit back and feel proud of our states while other states are suffering. We are all in this together. It is telling though how states are moving in polar directions on gun control. Kind of the cards really be shown.
 
So... apart from IPSC classic division and USPSA single stack, are action shooting sports now basically dead in NY state?

That's a good question. The people who write and vote on these bills are so simple minded they fail to see the ramifications of such things on their state.

Loss of gun manufacturers in the state like Remington..
Loss of citizens living in the state who decide to move
Loss of revenue from tourists who refuse to visit state due to absurd laws
Loss of revenue from firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition

All of these things equal less money coming in for the state of NY.

You would think in such tough economic times they would be doing anything they can to EARN revenue for their state, but instead Bloomeberg and these other simple minded buffoons are trying to make a name for themselves.
 
am I mistaken, or isn't this signed into law now?

can we ban politicians, or at least, cap them at five per state.
 
Unfortunatly, today New York. Tomorrow, Connecticut, Rhode Island and New Jersey.
By the weekend, Vermont, Massatwo****s, Maryland, Delaware and California. Maine might hold out for a week.
After that Obama has his way with the rest of the country.
 
Cuomo calling his constituents names? Lumping everyone together. Patting himself on the back? This is an insult to every law abiding citizen and the Tyrants our founding fathers warned of.

to quote him
"You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and common sense," he said before inking the deal in Albany.
 
Xaak - the black eye these states are giving themselves will last long after we are all dust. Its not like they can go to court and change what SCOTUS has already ruled. These states can push this in the short run but in the long run they will loose.. Consider the jobs alone... Arms are a huge industry and in a economy that's barely positive how is this going to help these states? No Sir, they are cutting their noses to spite their face..
 
Don't group all of us New Yorkers together, Cuomo & Bloomberg are dangerous people, they are zealots. The problem with ny is NYC. There are so many commies there than they cancel out our votes come election time. Voting up here is pointless. I live in the highest taxed county in the country, and after what Cuomo did today, I've had it. My only option as I see it is to move out.
 
I cant tell you how many emails Ive sent today on the nonsense and I dont even live in NY state... My fingers are actually sore....
 
BGutzman, I fervently hope you are right and the SCOTUS doesn't come down with some twisted logic to say "it's alright."
 
I just waiting for teh class action law suit for the NY constitution Article 1 Section 7 (US 5A) for the payment for the siezure of private property. NY will be screaming to the US Congress to bail them out.
 
I didn't read all 6 pages of posts but I have some very serious issues with this new law. I actually sat down and read as much of the 40 pages as I could without throwing up tonight and I'm absolutely disgusted.

So here we go in no particular order:

1) This bill was passed in secrecy, it became a bill yesterday and today it was signed by the Governor allowing the people it would affect the most no time to read let alone weigh in on it.

2) It passed with virtually no opposition 43-18 in the state Senate and 104-43 in the Assembly. It takes months to get anything done in Albany how is it possible that they managed to get this bill passed into law in 2 days with such a landslide vote?

3) The new law makes background checks for ammunition purchases mandatory, so if I run low on .35 Rem ammo during deer season I now have to submit to a background check to purchase.

4) Records of ammunition purchases will be kept in a state police database for a year. Welcome to Nazi Germany.

5) My NYS pistol permit which says good until revoked will now have a 5 year shelf life and must be renewed. As I'm sure most of you know NY is a may issue state and not a shall issue state. Does this mean that my permit may be renewed and not shall be renewed?

6) Theft or loss of ammunition must now be reported within 24 hours of the discovery.

7) "Assault Weapons" (I hate that term) grandfathered in must be registered with the state police.

8) Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds manufactured before 1994 must be disposed of. So these previously allowed magazine that were allowed under the previous ban are now verboten and must be sold outside of NY state. This item which is so inherently dangerous that it's not allowed in NYS must now be dumped on other states????

9) IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS AN AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE THAT SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS SECTION, THAT HAS A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT MORE THAN SEVEN BUT LESS THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION, WHERE SUCH DEVICE CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
This looks to me that it's ok to won the magazine but not ok to load it with more than 7 rounds. So I guess the 2 1970 10/22 magazine I have are ok as long as I don't put more than 7 rounds in them, this is just plain stupid.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg of what was rammed down our collective throats today. I'm still numb over this, once I start getting the feeling back in my body I guess I'll have to start looking for property in a free state. I may go out and join Kraigwy in Wyoming at least they're not selling out gun owners.

Stu
 
Even worse if you are thinking about tooling up to make 7 round mags.... who knows how long this will last before it is changed again?

Exactly! Who's to say after the next mass shooting [...and you know there will be another one, 'cause banning 'em don't work] these guys won't say the new magic number is FIVE?!

Kinda makes me wonder when the 2AM visit/searches from the agencies will start.
 
The republicans run the state senate and stuck it to every NY gun owner. Not a penny ever again.

They want us to register legally owned long arms but don't worry, they would never pass a law in the dark of night with no discussion outlawing them. I mean they did it about the magazines they used insisting we throw them out but they would never do that for the guns and then use the registrations to collect them...
 
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