New York State Gun Control - Passed!

I am a resident of NY state with a pistol permit and I have 2 pistols right now. One being a S&W Bodyguard 380 which only comes with a 6rd mag anyways. My other gun is a Ruger SR9C. So if I can no longer possess the 10rd mags that came with it and have to sell them out of state within a year, what if Ruger doesn't start making 7rd mags? Is that a possibility? Then what, I have a gun I paid over $400 for that is a paper weight? What about my friend who is also a LEGAL gun owner and owns a gen 3 Glock 19. He currently has "pre ban" high cap mags for it, meaning pre 1994. Will he be forced to sell these as well? I can't imagine gun manufacturers being too happy about possibly having to make all new magazines specifically for NY state.

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I can't imagine gun manufacturers being too happy about possibly having to make all new magazines specifically for NY state.

Honestly most probably wont make them. I live in Massachusetts where to buy a gun in this state it needs to be certified. To be certified in this state is a huge hassle, and since Massachusetts is such a small percent of their revenue alot of companies do not even do business with Massachusetts. I suspect some companies will drop NY completely and choose not to do business with them.

Our government is full of simple minded fools, I cant even express how disgusted I am. The major crisis in this country right now is our economy. All this gun control spiel if passed will put countless people out of business and countless people out of jobs. In a time where our country needs every penny it can get, they are doing their best to shut down an entire industry.
 
Brian , the NY pols have never been able to understand why people continue to leave NY. High taxes ,difficulty in starting and running a business, never ending increase in regulations ,and now the gun ban .
The numbers game is crazy, first Bloomberg with 16 oz sodas, I could buy 2 or 3 8 oz. Cuomo 10 rd mag is ok but you only can load them with 7 bullets [ie cartridges]. I guess now I'll have to carry three 1911s .[that's 3x7 =21 !] That beats 2x17 ! I'm glad I have an engineering background so I can understand those big numbers !!
Unfortunately I,m not in a position to leave the state.
 
I am a resident of NY state with a pistol permit and I have 2 pistols right now. One being a S&W Bodyguard 380 which only comes with a 6rd mag anyways. My other gun is a Ruger SR9C. So if I can no longer possess the 10rd mags that came with it and have to sell them out of state within a year, what if Ruger doesn't start making 7rd mags? Is that a possibility? Then what, I have a gun I paid over $400 for that is a paper weight? What about my friend who is also a LEGAL gun owner and owns a gen 3 Glock 19. He currently has "pre ban" high cap mags for it, meaning pre 1994. Will he be forced to sell these as well? I can't imagine gun manufacturers being too happy about possibly having to make all new magazines specifically for NY state.

The way I see it is you can have them (possible registered) and you can only load 7 rounds.
 
"I wonder if gun makers would bother making 7 round magazines."

Companies are in business to make a profit. What would be better for them than having millions of their previous products made useless and a new market for millions of new product created with the stroke of a pen. I'd bet some of the larger high capacity magazine makers are already jumping up and down for joy and having preliminary meetings to discuss the new gold rush for them. Magazines do not take the level of re-tooling for manufacturing as does items more complex.
 
hey does anybody have detailed info about NYS gun control?

Hey I'm a Western New Yorker and I heard about the new restrictions. so can we still buy/own new semi-auto .22 rifles? (I'm sure pre-banned purchases can still be owned and registered) and i have a pump-action shotgun with a collapsible stock. is that legal? i saw the restriction says that a semi-auto shotty can have one military feature but i couldnt find any statutes on pump-action shotguns. also does it say something about banning "semi-automatic pistols"? does that mean if my pistol permit goes through (which i dont think it will now), ill be limited to buying revolvers, derringers, and liberator 1-shot handguns like the WWII american pilots used to carry?
 
Companies are in business to make a profit. What would be better for them than having millions of their previous products made useless and a new market for millions of new product created with the stroke of a pen. I'd bet some of the larger high capacity magazine makers are already jumping up and down for joy and having preliminary meetings to discuss the new gold rush for them. Magazines do not take the level of re-tooling for manufacturing as does items more complex

Actually quite the contrary. I would not be surprised if alot of these companies refuse to go through the expensive process of having to tool up to make 7 rd mags. It's not a simple process and it can be very expensive. Also, considering only NY has this ban, and considering NY makes up a small percentage of firearm sales throughout the country, they might not even bother. The cost vs benefit might not add up to make specialized mags for only one state, especially when that state has such a low percentage of firearm purchases compared to others.
 
I doubt that it was accidental that NY picked the 7 round number. They almost certainly realize most semi autos will become useless in NY because magazines will not be availaable.

Would it be possible to modify a magazine by pinning it to limit it to 7 rds? If so would it make a magazine legal?
 
I wonder if... ( oh never mind, there is no common sense involved with this legislation )

... one could get by adding blocks under or in place of the follower ( much like duck hunters have to do to cut down on some guns capacities )
 
Nope. As silly as that would be, they are going to give us a year to sell our clips out of state. Anyone in possesion of a clip with a 10 rd capacity will be guilty of a misdemeanor. If 10 rd clips are so bad, why does Cuomo wish such an ill on anyone out of state? Where am I even supposed to go?! Drive to PA and start asking around?! This is ridiculous! The irony is I liked Cuomo. He was a friend of my late uncle, who spoke highly of him. I voted for him and would have again. He just lost my support.
 
Nope. As silly as that would be, they are going to give us a year to sell our clips out of state. Anyone in possesion of a clip with a 10 rd capacity will be guilty of a misdemeanor. If 10 rd clips are so bad, why does Cuomo wish such an ill on anyone out of state? Where am I even supposed to go?! Drive to PA and start asking around?! This is ridiculous! The irony is I liked Cuomo. He was a friend of my late uncle, who spoke highly of him. I voted for him and would have again. He just lost my support.

Not true....

Section 38 of the bill amends Penal Law � 265.00(23) to ban all large
capacity magazines that have the capacity to hold more than ten
rounds of ammunition including those that were grandfathered in under
the original assault weapons ban and creates a new ban on magazines
that hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. Magazines that can
hold more than seven rounds but not more than ten rounds and are
currently possessed will be grandfathered in, but may only contain
seven rounds of ammunition. Exceptions are made for large capacity
magazines that are curios or relics.
 
Also, considering only NY has this ban, and considering NY makes up a small percentage of firearm sales throughout the country, they might not even bother.

Even worse if you are thinking about tooling up to make 7 round mags.... who knows how long this will last before it is changed again? With 10 round mags, at least you have a variety of states that have that restriction. But NY just pulled this 7 round number out of thin air. Next time there is a big shooting in NY, they may just turn around and change that to 5 rounds. So a mag maker could spend a lot of time and money making something and then be unable to sell their inventory. Not like anybody outside of NY would want them!

And I think back to the 94 AWB. I bought a Glock back then that came with 10 round mags. The reduced capacity was bad enough but the really frustrating part to me was that they were hard to load and definitely not as reliable as the standard ones. Same thing with a 10 round AR mag that came with a rifle. That 10 round AR mag got tossed in the trash... not due to capacity... but due to the fact that it caused the rifle to misfeed on occasion. Never failed with standard milspec mags. So if you can finally find some 7 round "special" mags for your Beretta 92F, how PO'ed will you be when the pistol jams with them?!

Gregg
 
When you provide those on the mental edge of life with training films that are tactical in nature (violent video games), then compound that with television and movies that de-values human life and makes it exciting or fills some anger place in their mixed up brain giving them new ideas, we have to expect those roaming the streets or left to their own merits to do things that shock those that still have the capacity to understand the difference between right and wrong. Getting a handle on the mentally ill is a good step. Perhaps if we could get teeth back in the FCC, we could get a handle on the intertainment industry. That would be another good step for those on the fringe of irrational thinking. Call your representatives to put the teeth back into the FCC. Lets get our complete freedom of gun rights back by being proactive where it will be more effective than just a token step to stroke the gunophobes. Keep calling your representatvies and encouraging others to do like wise. They won't listen to a few, but they will listen to a majority.
 
maybe we can start a group called "Gunners Against Violence". pro-gun, anti-violence, pro-love. i'm only slightly joking. activism seems to be where it's at now a days
 
When you provide those on the mental edge of life with training films that are tactical in nature (violent video games), then compound that with television and movies that de-values human life and makes it exciting or fills some anger place in their mixed up brain giving them new ideas, we have to expect those roaming the streets or left to their own merits to do things that shock those that still have the capacity to understand the difference between right and wrong. Getting a handle on the mentally ill is a good step. Perhaps if we could get teeth back in the FCC, we could get a handle on the intertainment industry. That would be another good step for those on the fringe of irrational thinking. Call your representatives to put the teeth back into the FCC. Lets get our complete freedom of gun rights back by being proactive where it will be more effective than just a token step to stroke the gunophobes. Keep calling your representatvies and encouraging others to do like wise. They won't listen to a few, but they will listen to a majority.

So your answer to getting the focus off of gun control is to throw video games and freedom of media to the wolves? For starters, it's been proven over and over and over again since this movement started in the 90s that violent media has little to no influence on violent activity. Tens of millions of gamers alone buy the Call of Duty series, and I don't see tens of millions of psychopaths walking the streets.

Second, let's pretend the spotlight does swing towards the violent media and there's some sort of reform to bring down the level of violence, whatever this theoretical action is. When they're done, do you really think they won't come back to guns?

The idea of sacrificing one right for another is horrible. I'm sure those rights to play a video game or see a violent movie aren't as high on the list, but it's just as bad to say we should pin everything on that; and to be blunt, is a bit hypocritical.

And as an aside, to everyone who thinks NY is going to be the only state that this is going to happen to, think again. Today it's 'oh, poor little NY, but I still have my guns, sucks to be them.' If there isn't some sort of solidarity amongst gun owners, the whole country is going to be an NY. Hunters don't care about assault weapons owners, rifle owners don't care about pistols; today it's something that isn't important to you, but they'll get to it. NY managed to cut down semi-auto rifles and pistols in one move, and it wasn't even hard. Before today, I was one of those people that felt something like this could never happen. Don't let your arrogance and organizations like the NRA tell you otherwise; the chances of it happening are very, very real. It takes one law to set the precedent and get everyone else thinking.
 
Does anyone have a site where this law is there word for word? I'd like to read it, if you have pre-ban magazines what do they want you to do? throw them out!?
 
When you provide those on the mental edge of life with training films that are tactical in nature (violent video games), then compound that with television and movies that de-values human life and makes it exciting or fills some anger place in their mixed up brain giving them new ideas, we have to expect those roaming the streets or left to their own merits to do things that shock those that still have the capacity to understand the difference between right and wrong. Getting a handle on the mentally ill is a good step. Perhaps if we could get teeth back in the FCC, we could get a handle on the intertainment industry. That would be another good step for those on the fringe of irrational thinking. Call your representatives to put the teeth back into the FCC. Lets get our complete freedom of gun rights back by being proactive where it will be more effective than just a token step to stroke the gunophobes. Keep calling your representatvies and encouraging others to do like wise. They won't listen to a few, but they will listen to a majority.

Wow, I'm speechless.....
 
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