There are approximately 50K contract security guards in Iraqi essentially working for the U.S. If they leave is the U.S. gonna' pull combat troops to do security guard/boyguard duty?
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There are approximately 50K contract security guards in Iraqi essentially working for the U.S. If they leave is the U.S. gonna' pull combat troops to do security guard/boyguard duty?
They (the military) has always used their own for all kind of protective details in all previous wars/police actions
I was a slave for 30+ years and didn't know it...gee...it never felt like I was enslaved...heck....I'd give them another 30 years if they'd let me...
So, by your own pro-mercenary description, these guys drive through populous areas and enforce an invisible, moving no-citizen zone as they drive, so that anyone entering this proximity and not immediately recognizing it and running away, is killed. And you think that's a legitimate way of conducting routine travel? Do you think the Iraqi security companies will just nonchalantly slaughter their own people like that? Let's see, anyone within 50 meters of our moving vehicles as we drive through unannounced is killed... And you wonder why the Iraqis want them out???DonR101395
From talking with those who are working for them as PSD, they are contractually obligated by the DOS to run high profile convoys, their is a bubble around the convoy that if penetrated and time allows they first try signaling the vehicle to back off via flares or by throwing water bottles, they have signs an strobe lights on the trail vehicle telling drivers to stay back. If the drivers don't comply or there is not time to signal they fire on the car.
They (the military) have always used their own for all kind of protective details in all previous wars/police actions...in some instances, the Secret Service may have escorted high profile politicos in the past...I for one have flown "big shots" in 'Nam, and the "body guards" were always specially trained soldiers.
So, by your own pro-mercenary description, these guys drive through populous areas and enforce an invisible, moving no-citizen zone as they drive, so that anyone entering this proximity and not immediately recognizing it and running away, is killed. And you think that's a legitimate way of conducting routine travel? Do you think the Iraqi security companies will just nonchalantly slaughter their own people like that? Let's see, anyone within 50 meters of our moving vehicles as we drive through unannounced is killed... And you wonder why the Iraqis want them out???
I think that's a gross oversimplification of what's going on. Americans kill Americans also, so why don't you just reason in your simple way that therefore Americans are incapable of living peacefully and deserve to die? That's really the sum total of your logic and standards with Iraqis, right? As far as your assurance that this is how the Iraqis will handle it, that is a rediculous statement. Millions of Iraqis already walk and drive those dangerous streets every day, but they don't travel by shooting everyone in sight.I've got no problem with it. Iraqis killed their own citizens for more than 30 years, so yea I know they would do it without a second thought. Particularly if they thought that person was from another tribe, Muslim sect or the guy who didn't do their laundry the way they asked last week.
Millions of Iraqis already walk and drive those dangerous streets every day, but they don't travel by shooting everyone in sight.
If you're trying to say that the Blackwater guys should be more afraid than the ordinary Iraqis, I would disagree. The Iraqi death toll is *much* higher than the coalition death toll, and the Iraqi citizens walking and driving those streets by and large, have no body armor, and no weapons, and that population of course includes women and children... yet they do walk and drive them, though I am sure they are afraid, as these are dangerous times there.
I really don't know about this particular incident, but the complaints about excessive and indiscriminate use of force by the Blackwater guys have been going on for years. And you yourself acknowledge and even endorse them killing ordinary citizens, merely because they exist. Under such conditions, I am not surprised the Iraqi government wants them expelled, and I am also not surprised it would be a popular move there with all the people.