Illegal Aliens rallying across US today

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mouskateer...that is the way my PC is set up...don't like it? Oh well...mis-interpret as you wish...now, stop trying to derail my thoughts with an attack on my font...that's really weak.
 
What you think is cheap labor is really costing you much more than a higher paid American citizen. It's just that the extra cost is in free welfare programs the illegals use every day. That is why areas with high illegal influx has high property taxes, and hospital closings (as in California) due to the inability to provide for their budgets to provide free medical care to illegals. I have lived in some of those areas. I lived in El Paso. They have some of the highest property taxes in the nation. Why? Because they have to get the money to support free social services for illegals from the property owners. Same in parts of California (also lived there). Why don't you think areas with high illegal influx is not some economic heaven with people just lining up to live there. Most do what we did. Tried to move to an area that has fewer illegals to take care of with free social services.

Now cities, like Gastonia NC, are asking Bank Of America to stop issuing credit cards to illegals. Why? Because it attracts illegal labor and that overloads the local warfare system. So, when you buy an item that you think is cheap due to illegal labor...remember illegal workers don't just quit at 5 and go home. They and their families use the local social services for free. Well not free, you are paying big time.
 
The big question is how many can America take in, what point does the system fail, roads, schools, medical care, etc. We now number 300 million can we provide room and jobs for India, China, and all of south America. Yes, all things have an end or perhaps a breaking point. If we continue at our present rate of immigration there will be little freedom remaining in a few short years. It is not about race folks it is about numbers.
 
Immigration is a good thing when controlled. A nation needs a steady birth rate of 2.1 or 2.2 to remain viable.

Europe is below that and sufferring. They have allowed tons of North Aftricans to emigrate in order to inflate the resident populations dwindling birth rate but have not integrated them culturally. They are in trouble.

Japan is a wreck. Their brith rate is aroudn 1.0 I believe. They have no immigration to offset the birth rate and and aging population that will soon compeltely stop contributing to the system while costing it plenty.

The USA has a birth rate slightly under 2.0 I believ for the resident population but we offset this with immigration. That could easily be made up for by LEGAL immigration but the ILLEGAL immigration is having a horrible effect. They are here doing the work but they are NOT contributing to the systems that they are costing us. Hospitals, Schools and all sorts of public services in areas hit by the tide of illegals are collapsing. being illegals they are CRIMINALS and areas full of them become criminal areas tied to more crime than simply immigration. In addition by taking lower wages illegally they lower the wages of an entire segment of the LEGAL workforce.

I fully support legal and controlled immigration. What we have now though is lawlessness and criminal behaviour.
 
It is very close to using all capital letters which is akin to yelling
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The things people like him do best is yell alot and come to rob from hard working American citizens. Oh yeah I almost forgot, They can pick lettuce too.
 
They are here doing the work but they are NOT contributing to the systems that they are costing us. Hospitals, Schools and all sorts of public services in areas hit by the tide of illegals are collapsing.
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Well said. That is why many cities are now taking action to discourage illegals from coming to their areas.
 
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They are here doing the work but they are NOT contributing to the systems that they are costing us. Hospitals, Schools and all sorts of public services in areas hit by the tide of illegals are collapsing.

Well said. That is why many cities are now taking action to discourage illegals from coming to their areas
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if thats the case why not make them legal citizens?
 
theres nothing you can do that an illegal immigrant cant.
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That's too easy. They don't contribute to support the local welfare system they abuse. That was too easy.:D

Oh, and don't tell me I don't know how much tax they really pay. Yeah, and I sent in a million extra dollars to the IRS this year. Just wanted to help out. Of course I don't have any record of this...I wanted to be anonymous.:cool:
 
so why not make them legal citizens so they can help this welfare?
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Now I have the right quote.

I have no problem with a reasonable number becoming citizens. But I think the illegals here should be in line behind the people that worked hard to do it the right legal way.
 
Immigration allotments should be based on

1. Birthrate. How many peolpe do we need for a stable and growing economy.

2. Land of Origin. Those from nations that outwardly oppress their populations should get preferential treatment. China, North Korea, Sudan and such fit this category. Mexico does not.

3. Skills. People who can contibute to society should be given a preference to those who cannot.

4. Language. You need to speak English to immigrate.

Now what about those already here illegally..... I am sorry but they should leave and apply for entry like all law abiding immigrants have done. What are you telling a population of criminals, that is what they are, when you immediatly forgive them and put them ahead of those who have gone through the system properly? Sorry but they CHOSE to break our laws and have no grounds to be displeased by our decision to ENFORCE our laws.
 
Those here now are, by definition, criminals. They have certain "rights", such as not being held without trial, etc. They have no more right than any other criminals to congregate, make demands, disrupt society, etc. They should be arrested, those who employ them also, and the former shipped back where they came from while the latter are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

AFTERWARDS we can worry about "immigration reform" and appeasing that segment of our own population who so lack understanding of economics, employment and immigration that they can thoughtlessly defend these invading cretins.
 
so what is a reasonable number of immigrants, and what line do they need to be in the back of?
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-Reasonable number about 200,000 per year.

-In line behind those that apply legally and go through the steps to become US citizens.
 
theres nothing you can do that an illegal immigrant cant.
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Please take the time to capitalize and use apostrophes and punctuation, it makes for easier discussion, as one is less likely to skip over a point that someone took the time to write properly.

I think that illegal immigrants are not legal immigrants for a reason. Specifically, they're low-level labor. Postgraduate educated immigrants won't have much trouble getting into the U.S. I, and others similarly educated, can do something most illegal immigrants can't. You might make a better point that there's nothing one can do that a legal immigrant cannot, but arguing about the general abilities of people who aren't allowed in the country is a weak argument, given that we give special dispensations to people with educations.
 
I think I can agree with those terms madmag. any reason behined the 200,000? mostly im trying to educate my self on this topic, so I can be better informed and make better arguments about it.
 
I am not expert on quota numbers, but I think 200,000 is about what the current quota allows. This means it is probably all the system can handle. I think these numbers can be played with a little. There are other quotas for special groups...but these numbers are low.

I am from Kentucky, I was hoping for quotas on Rednecks...but no luck so far.:D
 
Sorry but the only RIGHT illegals have is an all expense paid trip back to where they came. If they don't like the way their home country is run maybe they should do something about it instead of running ours into the ground. If they still want to come to the good 'ol US of A they can go through the proper channels and pay taxes like everyone else. How dare you come into my country illegelly and march though the streets to protest the law when you are breaking it even being here.

-Russ

On the other hand, I really love good mexican food. :-)
 
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