I was "fake" robbed yesterday

There is a report, but like I stated earlier, I do volunteer work with the City Police Department, Simunitions training with the SWAT team, and am a member of their Citizens Police Academy. I dont feel comfortable posting any more information than I have. I could give you the names of the responding officers, the name of the Chief who has been in contact with me, etc etc but I already feel like I have done enough.

I dont know what to tell you at this point, but I have never seen anybody ask to see a copy of a police report when discussing incidents on this site. And I've seen a lot more "out there" things than this. I guess if you dont want to buy it, step aside and let the others who do keep discussing....
 
Police reports are public record. If they are so inclined, they can PM you and get your name and request a copy of that police report from your local jurisdiction to prove their disbelief.

All questions aside, real or not, this could happen and probably has happened to quite a few folks.

Reaction, discretion, responsibility, aftermath are all part of the discussion here, whether this happened or not.
 
I don't believe for one second that any university would send out a mass e-mail after an incident like this was reported. A guy opened a car door and said give me your wallet, or words to that effect and then laughed about it being a hoax. No weapons were brandished, nobody was assaulted nothing happened, so why an e-mail and police report?

Galilarm and doug seem to have a unique sense of humor.
 
justme

I don't believe for one second that any university would send out a mass e-mail after an incident like this was reported. A guy opened a car door and said give me your wallet, or words to that effect and then laughed about it being a hoax. No weapons were brandished, nobody was assaulted nothing happened, so why an e-mail and police report?
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They sure would and many have. It does not matter that it was a hoax. Somebody runs the risk of getting hurt for this. The e-mail will probably cross the path of the offender(s) as well, letting thme know that people are taking their 'game' seriously. Also, IN TEXAS (where the incident occurred) there is this thing called "criminal mischeif." That is a crime. It may only be a misdemeanor, but cops will at least ticket for blatant stupidity. Also, it is entirely possible that the guys are brazen enough to use this as a way to "case" victims. You never know. Oh, another point, in Texas, because of the Castle Doctrine, the offender could have been shot on site just for opening the door without permission. It is, more than anything else, just a way for the school to cover their tail in case something does end up happening.


Galilarm and doug seem to have a unique sense of humor.
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Umm...do you just go around trying to provoke people? Get off it.
 
Well if you actually did hurt him then you would be in serious trouble. He and his friends would tell the responding police officers that he went up to you to ask a simple question and you freaked out for no reason and bashed his head into the door. Since there where no other witness, it is your word against several others. Even if there was video footage it still would probably look like you attacked him. Got to say that reacting violently in situations his not always a good idea since it is not always a cut and dried as it may seem.
 
wrong again

Well if you actually did hurt him then you would be in serious trouble. He and his friends would tell the responding police officers that he went up to you to ask a simple question and you freaked out for no reason and bashed his head into the door. Since there where no other witness, it is your word against several others. Even if there was video footage it still would probably look like you attacked him. Got to say that reacting violently in situations his not always a good idea since it is not always a cut and dried as it may seem.
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This is Texas, the law usually sides with people like GalilArm. Plus, IIRC, this wasn't the first such complaint. That certainly helps his case.
 
I'll quote myself, in regard to the claim that a mass email wouldnt be logical...

its a relatively small private university, in a relatively high crime area. Theres practically a perfect line that divides rich college kids from the poor, high crime areas.

They emailed "warnings" to students several times since I've been here.....Once was when a homeless guy was caught masturbating in a girl's shower room in one of the dorms, another time was when a couple on a walk was robbed at gunpoint, another was when some local kids went on a pepper spraying spree, and now this incident.
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I'll see if I can dig up some old newspaper articles about the stuff I mentioned above
 
If someone with a CCW shot one of these "jokers" it would have been a long expensive lesson,
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No, it would be a quick, cheap, and final lesson.;) Oh wait, you meant for the CCW holder.:D Criminal stupidity should be fatal, and it's a shame someone might have to face legal hassles for making it so. I've seen people die for more absurd reasons; someone meeting their maker for engaging in a felonious prank would bother me not a whit.

I don't believe for one second that any university would send out a mass e-mail after an incident like this was reported.
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Son of a gun, I agree with JustMe.:D I saw lots of "truth suppression" at my esteemed Big Ten alma mater. Even the campus embassadors giving the pre-frosh tours joked about how the campus claimed zero rapes over the previous five years; true, because all coeds reporting rapes in those five years were raped in dowtown frats/apartments, not technically on campus. Likewise, I witnessed a stabbing of a student at the downtown pool hall across the street from my dorm. That one didn't make the police blotter in the campus or town paper. Yet every petty CD theft, bike theft, and drunk and disorderly made the paper. We did have a campus shooting that made headlines, but that's a story for another thread....
 
About 15 years ago, I was dating a dancer gal, we went to her appt, a guy jumped out of the dark and put a gun to my head. I pulled a .38 almost shot him. He had a plastic squirt gun. Glad Ididnt kill that fool, he mistook me for someone else. Gee, a person made a mistake, how sad would it have been if I shot him? for a plastic gun?

Think before you react. Jail has lots of folks that wrongfully shot someone.
 
I'd feel more comfortable with something to confirm the incident.
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Please, Please! Let's not go there. We cannot start asking for verification on every issue. We have posters who claim to be marksmanship champions. Do we need to check their credentials? Some claim to be LEO's. Do we need a badge number? If I told you I was in Gulf 1 and was in one of the seldom mentioned units that actually met stiff resistance, do you need to see my honorable discharge? I've mentioned that I sail to exotic locations aboard my sailboat. Do you want to see a picture of me standing next to a 20 year old topless Polynesian girl in a grass skirt? Wait... I take that back, of course you do. Do we have proof that certain members or even mods aren't ex-cons who can't even own a firearm? Tell ya what - I don't know Powderman's credentials, but I know he can reach through your computer cable and put a choke hold on you.
The fact is, posts give us reason for discourse. Someone who sticks around here deserves some latitude. I could point out worse offenses, like those who change their screen name after they make some rude comments and offend people, or double identity posters who can beat up on the last remark they made if someone disagrees with it, or antis who troll for us to sound like Yosemite Sam.. I doubt people make many things up. The few times it may happen doesn't harm anything at day's end.
I think TFL would be a lot less interesting if we start demanding proof from posters. The purpose is reasonable discourse on matters pertaining to an ammendment we all agree on.
 
Tanzer said:
Please, Please! Let's not go there. We cannot start asking for verification on every issue.
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I'm not nitpicking at a niggling misspelling. A member reported a felony (armed robbery) and we've spent a good deal of time here.

So what's wrong with asking for a little background.

Unless there isn't any. And if there isn't any...
 
Actually he did not report a felony. He said a guy with a cell phone opened his car door and asked for his money. Personally I think most cops in a college town would laugh him out the door. I feel very confident that the campus authorities don't send mass e-mails for every "joke" that doesn't quite hit the funny bone.

Despite that I agree with markj, overreaction in cases like this is a real possibility. I think it does raise a legitimate point though. Are there things we can do that help prevent us from accidentally shooting someone for making a bad joke or stupid mistake?

I don't ever want to shoot someone and after the fact either know or even suspect that my life was not actually in danger. This incident demonstrates quite well that sometimes all indications are that our life or limb is indeed at stake when in fact they are not.

That might be a good thread on it's own. Granted some people might not second guess themselves if they acted in what they considered a reasonable manner, but I know that I would and do second guess myself around all sorts of issues. For instance, I am having second thoughts about putting in an air conditioner and gas furnace instead of a heat pump. In the infinite scheme of things it's not a big deal, but if decisions of such insignificance cause second thougts I can't imagine how my brain would react to shooting someone who wasn't going to hurt me.
 
by The Tourist:
I'd feel more comfortable with something to confirm the incident.
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Hmm, why? The rest of us feel ok. Call the police and college yourself. Surely the college won't lie to you. Why should he have to go dig up all the info to prove anything to you just.... are you too lazy to do it yourself? If you are going to insinuate someone is lying - which is exactly what you are doing here, then you back it up. I am sure GalilARM will tell you the name of the university and police department. If they won't tell you anything, ask GalilARM for more info. Do something besides sitting on your buttocks and pointing your finger. Don't forget to let us all know what you find out, as I am too lazy to make the few phone calls. If you find he is lying I'm sure he will apologize to us all. Oh, and I apologize if it seemed I was insinuating you're lazy. I really don't have any info to base that on.
 
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Actually he did not report a felony. He said a guy with a cell phone opened his car door and asked for his money.
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Well, if it's not a felony, then it's "panhandling by phone." In which case, who cares. Why the waste of bandwidth?

This is a topic which touches on the very possibility of a good guy shooting a jacker who is playing a foolish gag. I want to know if it's real.

I'm beginning to doubt if this ever happened. And since this incident might play out for real at some future time, I'd like to get the facts.
 
I agree tourist. At first I thought of the whole waste of bandwidth idea, then I thought it seemed like an important issue whether this particular event happened or not, then I went back to thinking that it would be nice to know what the police and university would actually do in such a scenario.
 
Justme said:
important issue whether this particular event happened or not
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In the end, that's the important issue.

If this is a colossal hoax, then the only thing that will happen is egg on someone's face.

On the other hand, let's suppose that someone has a guy jump into his vehicle and demand money. If the good guy believes this is just a joke, "as debated on TFL," then the good guy might laugh in the felon's face--or simply not respond in time.

So I ask, let's see the report, or let's come clean. I have concerns.
 
I repeat:
Hmm, why? The rest of us feel ok. Call the police and college yourself. Surely the college won't lie to you. Why should he have to go dig up all the info to prove anything to you just.... are you too lazy to do it yourself? If you are going to insinuate someone is lying - which is exactly what you are doing here, then you back it up. I am sure GalilARM will tell you the name of the university and police department. If they won't tell you anything, ask GalilARM for more info. Do something besides sitting on your buttocks and pointing your finger. Don't forget to let us all know what you find out, as I am too lazy to make the few phone calls. If you find he is lying I'm sure he will apologize to us all. Oh, and I apologize if it seemed I was insinuating you're lazy. I really don't have any info to base that on.
 
You could get the police report and black out all personal information and then post it here, but again...people can find it for themselves if they really question it.
 
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