Are you trying to tell me that you and your LE friends would shoot a man holding a person at gunpoint with a badge in the other hand?
Of course not, and I didn’t say anything even close to that. For you to try and phrase it in such a manner is dishonest. There is a world of difference between "The badge makes no difference" and "I'd shoot because he has a badge".
What kind of officers do you associate with David?
Pretty good ones, IMO.
Provided no threats to your safety are made of course this is absolutely the most disgusting thing I have heard.
Again, since that is something you made up on your own, I’m sorry if you disgust yourself. However, you might want to deal with what is actually said instead of nonsensical stuff you dream up. If there is no threat then it doesn't matter if you have a badge or a box of cereal. It neither helps nor hurts.
The badge is in addition to.....
If you do what you are told, you don’t need any “in addition to....” If you don’t do what you are told, the badge won’t help. Thus it becomes irrelevant either way, which is my point.
Apparently with your LE friends who will shoot the badge holder before finding out whats going on.
No, my LE friends will do like any good LEO in the country. If you present a danger to them or to others they will stop you. If you follow instructions/directions they will not use any force beyond that necessary. The badge does not change that at all. Again, you might want to try dealing with what was said instead of some fantasy you made up on your own.
I mean you say your friends reject my idea. They say it won't work.
My friends reject the idea as being rather silly and useless. And history has shown that it won’t work. It provides a false sense of security, which is dangerous. Sorry if that disturbs you.
That means they won't pause to make sure that my badge isn't a fellow officer.
So you admit that you are using the badge to make someone think that you are a police officer? See, that is the problem. LEOs know that anybody can get a badge, thus it doesn't mean much to them. It might mean somethign to non-LE thta don't know any better, but flashing a badge at me doesn't change anything. I'll respond based on your actions, and when things settle down then we can check out each others credentials.
My guess is that if LE comes on the scene to find someone holding another person at gunpoint, the determination of whether to shoot or not will depend on whether the person with the gun immediately complies with their commands and on very little else.[/
John has summarized it quite accurately. LE won’t run up and shoot you just because you have a gun on someone. LE also probably will shoot you if you don’t do exactly what they tell you to do and are presenting a danger to them or others. The badge makes no difference.