At work-we recently had some motors on presses making terrible noises-due to the greases we were trying. We came across one that made the motors run silky smooth, cleaner and MUCH quieter. My question is- how do you all feel about this specific grease for rail grease on semi autos? I have a lot of 3rd gen smiths and a few other assorted semi autos. Attached are pics of the specific grease.
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Gun grease/lube question
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Mike Irwin
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Never used it, but it seems as if it might be a bit thick for use on semi-auto rails given the specifications on the tube.
Give it a try. You won't hurt anything, and at worst you'll have to clean it off if it causes too much drag.
Give it a try. You won't hurt anything, and at worst you'll have to clean it off if it causes too much drag.
Just an FYI for Glocks
Page 37 of the Glock manual describes how to lubricate the pistol.
One drop ! One drop of OIL! I repeat - OIL !
The only mention of grease in the Glock manual is in a negative context - on page 38 under the heading "DO NOT OVER-LUBRICATE" it says:
Page 37 of the Glock manual describes how to lubricate the pistol.
One drop of OIL should be spread along the entire length of each slide rail cut.
One drop ! One drop of OIL! I repeat - OIL !
The only mention of grease in the Glock manual is in a negative context - on page 38 under the heading "DO NOT OVER-LUBRICATE" it says:
...large quantities of oil or gease will collect unburnt powder and other residue, which could interfere with proper functioning...
I imagine it's pretty thick and sticky, since it says "good adhesion" that probably means carbon deposits will also adhere to it well. Give it a try using only a very thin coating applied with a cotton swab. The coating should be so thin you can't see any globs of grease, it should just look wet.
redstategunnut
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One $4 tub of bearing grease is a lifetime supply of gun lube. Apply sparingly to the parts that slide on one another. I've lost count of the number of guns I've seen that were "oiled" per the "manufacturer's specifications" with Ultra Lube This and Fancy Pants That that began to malfunction under heavy use only to be "fixed" by a couple dollops of cheap ass grease.
"EP-2" means it is an ....
extreme pressure lubricant of the medium weight.
You'll only need a light coating of it, IF you decide to use it.
WHAT does the manufacturer say to use?
Personally, I used the standard "White lubriplate' grease, just a little dot from the tube on the rails and remainder go on the firing pin.
Oily rag for the surface for protection.
Remember they all attract junk the will restrict movement.
extreme pressure lubricant of the medium weight.
You'll only need a light coating of it, IF you decide to use it.
WHAT does the manufacturer say to use?
Personally, I used the standard "White lubriplate' grease, just a little dot from the tube on the rails and remainder go on the firing pin.
Oily rag for the surface for protection.
Remember they all attract junk the will restrict movement.
I could probably fill all the zits on my car with Crisco lard and go down to the gas station and back and not have any trouble.
Could I drive from New York to San Francisco like that? - Probably NOT.
Some people clean their pistol, grease their rails, go to the range and put 2 or 3 hundred rounds through their pistol and then come home and clean it thoroughly - and when they do their thorough cleaning, the old grease comes off and a new coat goes on.
Probably if someone uses a light coat of some grease in that manner – they probably will not notice a problem.
But they probably wouldn’t have had a problem with just a light coat of oil either…
There are a lot of things I could put on my pistol and not notice a problem with it if I followed the same regimen:
Crisco lard
Vaseline
Glycerin
Baby Oil
Vegetable oil
Shampoo
Soap
GP packing grease
Gear oil
Transmission fluid
Brake fluid
Just because a pistol functions during a trip to the range with any of these things on the slide isn’t proof that those substances are good for the gun.
The people who created the device also created a manual for it – and they created the manual for a reason. If John Q Guninventor thought that a tiny dollop of lithium grease should go on the rails of his guns wouldn’t he have put that in the manual? Would the gun manufacturers have a reason to keep the proper care of their products a big secret from their customers?
Could I drive from New York to San Francisco like that? - Probably NOT.
Some people clean their pistol, grease their rails, go to the range and put 2 or 3 hundred rounds through their pistol and then come home and clean it thoroughly - and when they do their thorough cleaning, the old grease comes off and a new coat goes on.
Probably if someone uses a light coat of some grease in that manner – they probably will not notice a problem.
But they probably wouldn’t have had a problem with just a light coat of oil either…
There are a lot of things I could put on my pistol and not notice a problem with it if I followed the same regimen:
Crisco lard
Vaseline
Glycerin
Baby Oil
Vegetable oil
Shampoo
Soap
GP packing grease
Gear oil
Transmission fluid
Brake fluid
Just because a pistol functions during a trip to the range with any of these things on the slide isn’t proof that those substances are good for the gun.
The people who created the device also created a manual for it – and they created the manual for a reason. If John Q Guninventor thought that a tiny dollop of lithium grease should go on the rails of his guns wouldn’t he have put that in the manual? Would the gun manufacturers have a reason to keep the proper care of their products a big secret from their customers?
Mike Irwin
Staff
"Grease is really oil thickened with a kind of soap. Do you really want to put that on your shooter?"
I've been using grease on my autoloaders since the 8th decade of the previous century.
Unlike many of the screeching doomcriers who predict that using anything other than a gun oil (IT MUST BE GUN OIL, OH GOD DON'T USE AN OIL THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR A GUN! OH THE HUMANITY! doing so will not cause nations to collapse, dogs to cohabitate with cats, and swarms of liberals to cover the land, etc. etc. etc.
None of my guns have disintegrated, turned into inoperative blocks of rust, or otherwise failed to do what they're supposed to do.
When using grease on slide rails, use a light-bodied grease for best results.
As for Glock, it's intersting that they say use oil.
It's also interesting that they do not say "Don't use grease!"
In fact, I believe Glocks still come FROM the factory lubricated with... grease.
No wonder Glocks are so damned worthless and unreliable. They're lubricated with grease.
Bottom line.
For years I've experimented with lots of different kinds of oils and greases on my firearms -- revolvers, semi-autos, shotguns, and rifles.
I've found some that, given their properties, aren't great.
I've found others that have been very effective, and I've continued to use them for certain applications.
I've also found some that are labeled specifically for use on guns that are, frankly, not worth the extra 250% mark up that comes with their being packaged in a tiny bottle and labeled as "gun lubricant."
But the LAST thing I do is to listen to the screeching doomcriers who predict doom, gloom, and perdition if you use anything other than X product or Y product, and it MUST be X Gun product or Y Gun product.
They're wrong.
I've been using grease on my autoloaders since the 8th decade of the previous century.
Unlike many of the screeching doomcriers who predict that using anything other than a gun oil (IT MUST BE GUN OIL, OH GOD DON'T USE AN OIL THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR A GUN! OH THE HUMANITY! doing so will not cause nations to collapse, dogs to cohabitate with cats, and swarms of liberals to cover the land, etc. etc. etc.
None of my guns have disintegrated, turned into inoperative blocks of rust, or otherwise failed to do what they're supposed to do.
When using grease on slide rails, use a light-bodied grease for best results.
As for Glock, it's intersting that they say use oil.
It's also interesting that they do not say "Don't use grease!"
In fact, I believe Glocks still come FROM the factory lubricated with... grease.
No wonder Glocks are so damned worthless and unreliable. They're lubricated with grease.
Bottom line.
For years I've experimented with lots of different kinds of oils and greases on my firearms -- revolvers, semi-autos, shotguns, and rifles.
I've found some that, given their properties, aren't great.
I've found others that have been very effective, and I've continued to use them for certain applications.
I've also found some that are labeled specifically for use on guns that are, frankly, not worth the extra 250% mark up that comes with their being packaged in a tiny bottle and labeled as "gun lubricant."
But the LAST thing I do is to listen to the screeching doomcriers who predict doom, gloom, and perdition if you use anything other than X product or Y product, and it MUST be X Gun product or Y Gun product.
They're wrong.
I doubt that there is a lubricant anywhere that doesn't have a following by a wide range of gun owners. And I personally believe that lubricant technology, especially grease technology, reached its apex a decade ago and the makers have been making a fortune by putting it in smaller containers and selling it as a specialty gun lube to people who get all worked up about the issue on internet gun forums.
Use the product that will protect your gun under your operating conditions. I use Mobil 1 exclusively in all of my auto pistols and AR's, sometimes 0W20, but usually 0W40. I rarely shoot more than 100 rounds a day in a given pistol and 50 per day in my AR's, but would easily increase that X3 and feel well protected in either type of firearm. I shoot factory ammo only in a clean range environment in temperatures ranging from the 60's to the 90's and in moderate humidity, say around 60%. So I really can't see the need for anything more sophisticated under these circumstances. I especially like the way synthetic motor oils keep carbon in suspension and make the gun much easier to clean.
My solvent of choice for the past five years has been homemade Ed's Red, with foaming bore cleaner used to remove copper from my AR barrels. These products meet my needs just fine.
I'm retired from a major LE agency that mandated the use of Break Free CLP and nothing else on all Departmental firearms for a number of years and did just fine with it - whether in revolvers, auto pistols, auto rifles, or pump shotguns. So I honestly believe that less ado on the subject probably wouldn't burn up any guns...especially in light of the times I've seen lube problems on the range solved off the end of somebody's Chevy dipstick.
JayPee
Use the product that will protect your gun under your operating conditions. I use Mobil 1 exclusively in all of my auto pistols and AR's, sometimes 0W20, but usually 0W40. I rarely shoot more than 100 rounds a day in a given pistol and 50 per day in my AR's, but would easily increase that X3 and feel well protected in either type of firearm. I shoot factory ammo only in a clean range environment in temperatures ranging from the 60's to the 90's and in moderate humidity, say around 60%. So I really can't see the need for anything more sophisticated under these circumstances. I especially like the way synthetic motor oils keep carbon in suspension and make the gun much easier to clean.
My solvent of choice for the past five years has been homemade Ed's Red, with foaming bore cleaner used to remove copper from my AR barrels. These products meet my needs just fine.
I'm retired from a major LE agency that mandated the use of Break Free CLP and nothing else on all Departmental firearms for a number of years and did just fine with it - whether in revolvers, auto pistols, auto rifles, or pump shotguns. So I honestly believe that less ado on the subject probably wouldn't burn up any guns...especially in light of the times I've seen lube problems on the range solved off the end of somebody's Chevy dipstick.
JayPee
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I think you're going to find its too heavy ....but try it and see...
Personally, I prefer oil on all of my semi-autos / I've tried grease in the past ...and went back to oil. ( my preferred products are Wilson's Ultima Lube oil or grease )....and I use a lot more of the oil than the grease.
Personally, I prefer oil on all of my semi-autos / I've tried grease in the past ...and went back to oil. ( my preferred products are Wilson's Ultima Lube oil or grease )....and I use a lot more of the oil than the grease.
armsmaster270
New member
I prefer Break Free CLP as it is a good product & I get it for free by the gallon.
"(IT MUST BE GUN OIL, OH GOD DON'T USE AN OIL THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR A GUN! OH THE HUMANITY! doing so will not cause nations to collapse, dogs to cohabitate with cats, and swarms of liberals to cover the land, etc. etc. etc."
OH so thats how Bozo Obama got elected. Hell maybe if we stop using lube all together he will disappear.
I use a extremely light grease on my Full Auto and some semi auto rifles. White lithium grease in a spray can. On rails of hand guns oil. Now if I can find some more of the Teflon oil or grease I will go back to that.
Mace
OH so thats how Bozo Obama got elected. Hell maybe if we stop using lube all together he will disappear.
I use a extremely light grease on my Full Auto and some semi auto rifles. White lithium grease in a spray can. On rails of hand guns oil. Now if I can find some more of the Teflon oil or grease I will go back to that.
Mace
Mike Irwin
Staff
I've used Crisco for years on patches in my muzzleloader.