Got a H&K P7 PSP on the way
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spacecoast
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Thanks for the clarification.
Peter M. Eick
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The main difference between the PSP and P7 is the heal release and if it sticks out or not (bottom one verses the other two). I don't have a true "PSP" though, I believe there were only like 25 of them made and they do have PSP on the slides if I remember the pictures right.
I carry mine. I tried out other guns and went back to the P7. I like the safety and the weight is not a big deal to me anymore.
Peter M. Eick, nice collection there.
If memory serves, and that's hard to predict these days, there were several hundred P7s that were marked on the slide as "PSP". Those are highly collectable. There were several thousand P7s made with the extended heel release, some later modified to a more flush looking part and then the third change to the familiar flush release as seen on most P7s. Tens of thousands of these were produced. Otherwise they are all pretty much the same gun.
The heel release PSP version was produced up to about 1997 or so and the M series up to about 2007 or so with a final batch of 500, so marked, (actually two final batches but that's HK's way). Over 10 years for one model and over 20 for the other. A good long time right in the midst of the polymer revolution.
Great guns that everyone should have in their collection IMHO.
FairWarning
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FITASC said:
The bolded is they KEY to this entire conservation. People who own P7s tend to be obsessed with them.
The P7 is supremely inspiring and reliable, and it's as cool as can be. Conceals brilliantly, has elite accuracy, and I don't feel the slightest bit worried about accidental discharges during concealed carry. You've have to be the modern equivalent of the dodo bird for that to be a concern.
The heat build up is a non-issue in a realistic defense scenario. Other than that, the only real drawback is that the P7 is so rare, valuable, and typically personally prized, that you may hesitate to use it for regular carry duty. I did buy a nylon pancake holster and felt IWB holster to minimize finish wear.
So not true... There are several people in this tread including me who own one but really don't care for them. You should amend the post to say people who post about their positives tend to obsesses about them making their popularity overly inflated IMHO.
Sounds like a lot of typical rationalization about the P7s obvious short comings from someone who is clearly demonstrating "obsessive" tendencies.
They are a "neat" gun to have in the collection but they are not for everyone even people who own them.
9x18_Walther
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You need to spend more time with HK people.
The solution to the heat issue is not to buy the P7M8 (added heatshield compared to original P7/PSP; doesn't actually do much).
The solution is to buy two P7M8s. Then you can switch between them.
LOL
Sounds like you need about 4 or more...
Was reading an article the other day about the P7. Author attended a high round count class back in the 1980's or 90's where another shooter brought 4 P7's with him to rotate. All were scorching hot at various points during the class.
They do shoot good though with such a low bore axis.
Sounds like you need about 4 or more...
Was reading an article the other day about the P7. Author attended a high round count class back in the 1980's or 90's where another shooter brought 4 P7's with him to rotate. All were scorching hot at various points during the class.
They do shoot good though with such a low bore axis.
9x18_Walther
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True. If it was made by anyone besides HK. I'd probably not be such a big fan.
"In fairness, very few people have had a chance to even hold a P7."
Back in the 80's my somewhat local store had the P7 and other uncommon guns. I didn't have the desire to hold one. Pricing was about the same as a Rolex watch at the time and I could have bought if I had the drive. Bought and still have my Zeiss binocs from the same dealer that cost $1K.
Today I do not regret not having the P7 or Rolex. Just not well suited to a bread/butter type like myself.
Looking/remembering back, publications/magazines were basically sales hype, virtually nothing negative. I sop pose at the time it really didn't matter because folks were almost eager to have another separate them from the green backs.
Back in the 80's my somewhat local store had the P7 and other uncommon guns. I didn't have the desire to hold one. Pricing was about the same as a Rolex watch at the time and I could have bought if I had the drive. Bought and still have my Zeiss binocs from the same dealer that cost $1K.
Today I do not regret not having the P7 or Rolex. Just not well suited to a bread/butter type like myself.
Looking/remembering back, publications/magazines were basically sales hype, virtually nothing negative. I sop pose at the time it really didn't matter because folks were almost eager to have another separate them from the green backs.
9x18_Walther
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I heard at one point they switched to the S&W 99 and had tons of problems with extraction. S&W/Walther issued a new extractor for all of their pistols. A lot of the officers were asking for their P7s back (these were the P7M13 IIRC).
The U. S. Park Police and the Navajo Police also used the P7.
The "unsafe" design of the P7 according to the NJSP I believe was an issue with the holster not the gun.
That simply is not true. Scores of law enforcement agencies used the HK. Why the New Jersey SP are usually the focus is a mystery to me.
The fact is the NJSP used the HK M13 for over 18 years... a long run for an agency issued sidearm. The HK's biggest obstacle to greater use among LE agencies is the relatively high cost.