Got a H&K P7 PSP on the way

Tom has a good point I should have brought up. Don't oil the piston at all! It will serious start to gunk up.

My point is to not shoot unjacked rounds and/or really dirty foreign ammo.
 
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As I remember Massad Ayoob (spelling?) illustrated an event where BG took the P7 and was not able to use it againt the owner because of the unique cocking.
 
I've owned 2 or 3, and still have a P7M8 I bought new years ago. They are not for everyone, but I have no particular desire to ever sell mine. I suspect you'll see all the opinions as to the downsides to these pistols mentioned here so I won't go into that. What I can say is that my P7s have been top quality, reliable, durable pistols with greater accuracy than I expected. On occasion, I have been able to shoot groups with the P7 that are as small as with the SIG P210, X-5,etc. Harder to do, because of the smaller size of the P7 series, but the accuracy is sure there. Don't know about not oiling the P7s. Mine were always lubed same as any other pistol. Anyway, enjoy that P7. I doubt you'll be anxious to trade it off after you try it out....
 
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Don't know about not oiling the P7s. Mine were always lubed same as any other pistol.
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That's how HK sees it too. The P7 manuals from HK say the piston is to have a light film. I believe them.
 
Whoops. I meant to say not to oil the "piston" not "pistol". The P7 needs to be lubed like any other gun.

If you live in a really humid area - a dry PTFE lubricant works the best if you must lube the piston/cylinder.
 
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I love them. If you fire a lot of rounds in a short period they do get pretty hot but the trigger is great, especially for the era it was fielded.
 
The downside, mainly the heat complaint, is really a non issue as very few people fire over 50 rounds in rapid succession. If it is an issue, get a shooting glove, or bring another pistol to shoot. There are not other negatives to the P7. The squeeze cocker does not require much to maintain once it is cocked. If you don't have the strength to cock the pistol then you have bigger problems than worrying about getting the gun into action.

I still carry my P7, as it is slim, compact, but offers the accuracy of a full size pistol. Yes, it is heavier than polymer, but I will take that trade off.
 
Here's a photo of the piston. The outside edges of the rings should be clean and shiny. Gunk in between will not affect performance and the gunk will accumulate. Carbon Killer by Slip 2000 does a great job of keeping the piston clean. No hard, sharp or abrasive tools on the piston.


Here is a photo of the tools, brush, reamer and disassembly tool. These may or may not be in the box All can be bought if not.


Links to great videos of P7 operation.
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIUfMsct_ao
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tofqw_2TKyY
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAXJVm0p44w
 
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I had one...it was a nice one as well, just couldn't warm up to it...the grip is really big on it compared to the rest of the gun. The lack of readily available parts, quick heat buildup, ammo restriction and single stack mags ended up being its achilles heel IMO. Plus the magazines are hard to find and expensive...I sold it..cool looking gun though just not functional enough for my keeping.
 
Thanks for all the feedback and tips. In addition to jacketed ammo, is it OK to shoot plated bullets through a P7?

PSP - great videos, thanks!
 
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Congrats. I got my PSP in 1987 NIB sr 53XXX. Still is new in cardboard box with a target. I paid $450 back them and mine too has turn plum. Unique gun for a collection. All the police sales dumped a lot more of them used PSP's on the market a few years back.
 
"The squeeze cocker does not require much to maintain once it is cocked."

True, and that is the problem. I generally grip a pistol with a fairly loose hold and the cocking lever of the P7 tends to make me forget that it is there until it jumps out in the middle of a shot string. I would not like that to happen in an emergency.

I am perfectly willing to admit that this is a training/familiarization issue as much or perhaps more than a design issue. Still, I don't like guns that give me surprises. It is like the DA/SA pistols, except that with those you know the first trigger pull will be longer/harder. With the P7, you have the gun uncock itself forcing a hard squeeze when you are not expecting it.

Jim
 
I would not like that to happen in an emergency.
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I totally agree with your thoughts and opinions on the subject.

If I could buy every H&K M7 in the world (PSP, P7M8, P7M13, etc.), I would. It is by far my most favorite handgun design - rooted in pure ingenuity. If it's the only handgun you have - go ahead and carry it. If you use other handguns, even infrequently, I'd pass.

Would I ever consider carrying it or using it for home defense? Absolutely not. Any lighter polymer semi-auto will perform equally well if not better in a self-defense situation. Not to mention, the thought of it sitting in an evidence locker getting beat up is frightening.

I've gotten into debates over this before. I love the P7, 1911s, revolvers etc. but 99.9% of the time your best viable option is a Glock, M&P, or other common service pistol. Will the 1911 or P7 work? - certainly! But is it the absolute best choice? - even most 1911 folks would agree its probably not...

Ironically, the New Jersey State Police switched from the P7M(13 I believe?) to the S&W 99 and after encountering issues with the S&W/Walther, the officers were asking for their H&Ks back. I think they're on the P229 now.

Anyways. The P7 is a great handgun. I'm not a fan of gold Desert Eagles and the such, but even I can't deny that this P7 in Titanium Nitride looks awesome!

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Bought my PSP early in the game, serial 90XX. Wore it regularly in my Jackass/Galco Miami rig up until I retired five years ago. It was always there when I needed it. It remains my night table gun now. Never ran over three mags through it before letting it cool. Now I use it enough to stay proficient, but I have always had plenty of others for range toys. Its not for sale.
 
Plated bullets or cast bullets are not recommended as the plating and lead may come off and cause problems !

I never got the disassembly tool but you can make your own or use other things!

Excess oil in the piston will burn and leave residue which may interfere with functioning,

And when you get to be a big kid then get a big P7, a P7 M10 !! :p
 
I have been carrying a P7 for more than a decade and think it is a fine edc.

I have only recently acquired a Sphinx SDP Compact Alpha as a possible replacement due to the increased capacity.

If I didn't need the additional capacity I would still be totin' the old P7.
 
Not to nitpick, but the chance that anyone actually owns a PSP is very slim. Only the first fifty-some pistols produced are PSP and are plainly marked on the slide as such, marked only P7 thereafter until further variants. One way or the other an exceptional pistol.
 
Yes, Que, you're correct. Very few people own an actual PSP. I have one of the p7 models (not PSP) carried by the German police. It's in very good shape. Also have a p7m8, an even better gun. It has all the features of the p7 and none of the drawbacks, mag release, heat, etc.

I carry the p7m8 most of the time, along with an extra loaded mag.
 
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