George W. Bush (Warning: Lengthy)

Incompetence at ANY level of govt

In my post I said, "One does not need to be a liberal to condemn ineffective government at ANY level".

None of the agencies involved at the local, state or national level is exempt from criticism. There is plenty of blame to go around.

I remember when the Marine barracks in Beirut were bombed resulting in massive casualties. Pres. Reagan said, as Commander in Chief, "I am responsible." The noise level about who was to blame abated after that. However, in the current situation, neither the mayor, Governor, FEMA or the Administration is willing state this. They all deserve our censure.

Allowing ANY elected official to wrap himself / herself in the cloak of "infallabilty" is inimicable to our constitutional republic.
 
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Bush takes responsibility

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...na_lat,0,2091786.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Bush Takes Responsibility for Slow Hurricane Response
By David Zucchino and Solomon Moore
Times Staff Writers

9:51 AM PDT, September 13, 2005

NEW ORLEANS — President Bush today accepted responsibility for the weak federal response to the Hurricane Katrina disaster.

At a Washington news conference with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, Bush acknowledged that the federal government has been blamed for a slow and inadequate response to the killer hurricane that hit the Gulf Coast Aug. 29.

"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government. And to the extent that the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," the president said.

It was the strongest statement of responsibility from the White House since the hurricane crisis began and initial relief efforts were sharply criticized by officials in hard-hit New Orleans and Louisiana. Michael Brown was forced to step down as director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

The public's dissatisfaction with the federal storm response dragged Bush's job approval rating to the lowest level of his presidency at 42%, a Washington Post/ABC News poll reported. Some 57% disapprove of Bush's performance in office, a double-digit increase since January, the survey found.

Today, Bush was asked whether the federal response to Katrina should worry Americans that their government isn't prepared to respond to another disaster or even a terrorist attack.

"That's a very important question, and it's in our national interest that we find out exactly what went on so that we can better respond," Bush said.

As he has before, Bush said he wanted to know what went wrong and what went right. "I'm not going to defend the process going in," Bush said. "I am going to defend the people saving lives."

He again praised relief workers at all levels. "I want people in America to understand how hard people worked to save lives down there," he said.

Bush will address the nation from Louisiana on Thursday evening, the White House announced today. It will be the fourth presidential trip to the hurricane-damaged Gulf Coast.

Bush spoke after R. David Paulison, the new acting director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, pledged to increase efforts to house the tens of thousands of evacuees who fled the storm.

"We're going to get people out of the shelters. We're going to move on and get them the help they need," Paulison told reporters in his first public comments since he was appointed.

Hundreds of thousands of people have fled to shelters in states across the country. Texas has about 250,000 in shelters and private housing.

Meanwhile, New Orleans awaited the opening of the airport and the waterfront today as authorities investigated the deaths of about 45 patients found in a flooded hospital.

The exact number of bodies recovered Sunday from the 317-bed Memorial Medical Center was unclear. A state official said the corpses of 45 patients were found; a hospital administrator said there were 44, plus three on the grounds.

The discovery raised Louisiana's official death toll to nearly 280, though officials have put the final count in the thousands. In Mississippi, the estimated toll is at more than 1,000 with about 200 bodies already recovered.

Paulison has a loyal following of firefighters in Florida, where as Miami-Dade County's fire chief he is remembered for pressing for aid for 400 firefighters whose homes were destroyed or damaged during Hurricane Andrew in 1992.

"He got a good baptism with Andrew," said Dominick Barbera, a vice president of the International Assn. of Firefighters. "He's going to step into a real hot box now."

In his letter of resignation to Bush, Brown, 50, said he was leaving "to avoid further distraction from the ongoing mission of FEMA." Brown had become a pincushion for critics of the Bush administration's storm response and was accused in recent news reports of exaggerating his emergency experience on his official resume.

Housing remains a critical issue. FEMA is barreling ahead with plans to create huge trailer-park cities — complete with schools and security. "This may not be on the scale of building the pyramids, but it's close," said Brad Gair, FEMA's disaster-area housing chief.

As many as 200,000 people — most of them in Louisiana — would be housed in the giant trailer parks for up to five years. The sites, scattered around the state, would vary in size from 5,000 to 25,000 people. About 6,000 FEMA-owned trailers are in Louisiana, and hundreds more are arriving daily, Gair said. In the next few days, FEMA plans to break ground on a 15,000-unit trailer city in the Baton Rouge area, and evacuees could start moving in within 10 days.

Meanwhile, mortuary teams continued to process the bodies after they were removed a day earlier from Memorial Medical. Health officials had known since last week that they would find bodies there, informed by doctors who were forced to evacuate after surging floodwaters short-circuited power to vital life-support respirators.

State health officials said many of the dead were elderly, ill patients whose conditions worsened as doctors and nurses struggled with sweltering 106-degree temperatures and shortages of food, water and medicine.

Joanne Lalla, an oncology nurse, said she "couldn't understand why nobody was coming to help us."

Dave Goodson, the hospital's assistant administrator, said that at one point, 500 hospital staff members were there along with 2,000 patients.

"These patients were not abandoned," Goodson said.

Patients at several other New Orleans hospitals also died during evacuations over the same period. At Charity Hospital, several patients died after doctors and nurses trying to evacuate them came under sniper fire and retreated inside.

But in St. Bernard Parish, state officials launched an investigation into the deaths of 20 residents of St. Rita's Nursing Home. The victims perished at the height of intense flooding.

Prosecutors are looking into reports that the facility's staff fled the premises, leaving behind mostly elderly patients, some trapped in their beds.

"I want answers," state Atty. Gen. Charles C. Foti Jr. said. "I want to know why those people were trapped and were not evacuated."


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Zucchino and Moore reported from New Orleans. Times staff writers Lianne Hart in Baton Rouge, and Ellen Barry and Rick Loomis in New Orleans and Michael Muskal in Los Angeles contributed to this report.
 
That is certainly an interesting article.

I was there on Saturday and Sunday after the hurricane. I know that some of the “facts” in the article are correct, but I cannot vouch for them all.

I know where I believe the blame should be placed after attempting to help.

Charles


Charles
 
Im gonna give Bush some points for stepping up and taking responsibility for the Federal Government's performance. Bush has also suggested that Congress look into granting the President and FEMA power to take over in a situation where the resources of local and state government cant do the job.

However, taking the blame as the overall leader doesnt fix anything. He needs to take to the bully pulpit that Pres Reagen used to see that things get fixed and everyone cooperates. Its okay to have your staff work on it...but if things are going slow or not at all its the leaders job to put some foot up some rear end.

A new FEMA leader has been appointed, but will he be able to overcame some of the problems inherent in a bureaucracy?

Maybe FEMA needs to be turned into a uniformed type of service to eliminate some bureacracy. Someone on the board also mentioned a FEMA Reserve. This sounds like a good idea for each region to have. There also needs to be a strengthining in FEMA with respect to private donation usage, as evidenced the public and private respose to Katrina was fast.

There was an article in our county newspaper the other day about the private shelters. It was all good but there is a need to get them all on the same sheet of music to ensure that they do the right things so evacuees can take get the full benefits they are entitled to.

I also applaud the fact that auditors have been sent in to oversee the spending of this money.

Its a start.......but a lot of work remains to be done.
 
Satisfied

Yes, I am satisfied. I was not calling for the President's resignation or impeachment. As an old fashioned guy, I believe our republic is best served when we ALL take personal responsibility. That virture can be shared by both Democrats (Harry Truman - "the buck stops here") and Republicans (Reagan and now GWB - "I am responsible").

From my point of view, no one man is the "savior" of our democracy. We must all do it and the Constitution and Bill of Rights empowers us to stand up and participate. To imply that ANY leader should be shielded from criticism or cloaked in an aura of "infallability" solely because the "other side" might gain some partisan advantage seems to me to be contrary to the true nature of our democracy.

I did say in my original post "It is that belief in the Constitution and the belief that government needs to be accountable that makes me a conservative." To demonstrate that I am an equal opportunity curmudgeon, let me say that I think Clinton should have been impeached AND convicted for his perjury. The Senate failed us. They also failed us when they only spent 42 minutes on Brown's confirmation hearing for FEMA. I could go on ...

Rich, thank you for this forum which I believe reflects the best of both the 1st and 2nd amendments.
 
In retrospect, you're absolutely correct....he needed to accept responsibility.
Now, let's see if his critics are up to the same task...not one word of reponsibility from Nagin or Blanco yet.
Rich
 
wow, eghad

I do not wish to be personal, but I am amazed by your posts.
As a fellow military man (21 years) and a fellow Texan (almost two years) I can see that you spent zero time learning about how the United States works from a Constitutional standpoint.

Not yesterday, not today, and (God willing) not tomorrow does any one legally and nationally-elected individual unilaterally impose his will (or leadership, as you call it) upon a state or the elected leaders thereof ... regardless of good intentions, feelings, intuition or Divine guidance.

We can debate the legality/propriety of:
Kennedy getting us into Vietnam
Reagan ordering the invasion of Grenada
Klinton dropping Tomahawks on damn-near-everybody
GWB going into Iraq.
Note that the score is two to two. I am trying to be fair. I would ask that anyone reading or responding to this do likewise.

What is NOT up for debate is whether GWB had the right, responsibility, "leadership" or call-it-what-you-will to override Constitutional law, Nagin, Blanco and FEMA. This is clearly defined in the Constitution.
That is a FACT. (Note: If we appoint a dictator, all bets are off.)
While we're at it:
FACT: N.O. had a plan for a major hurricane and for evacuation.
FACT: Their duly elected leaders failed to put it into effect.
FACT: No amount of Monday morning quarterbacking, or finger-pointing, changes any of the above.
 
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