The reasons why is because there's an increased focus on the .32 caliber and its role in carry by civilians specifically for self defense. Unlike military use that's focused on combat with other trained and well equipped enemies or police and their higher likelihood of having to shoot thru barriers, the average Joe or Jane is simply looking to stop someone attacking them if they're unable to retreat.So, I took a look at the linked video, as far as the case drawing, which I found interesting.
and it also explains to a degree why it needs high pressure to deliver what I consider adequate but not outstanding results.
First, the COAL of the round, is the same as the 9mm Luger, !.169" The drawing shows a very tapered bullet with a very large flat point at the max length. Clearly this length was chosen to fit in 9mm frame size guns.
Otherwise, the case is straight with a slight taper, and approximately .30 cal, so smaller in diameter than 9mm or any of the other common larger caliber rounds. And, while the case is 0.07" longer than the 9mm Luger, its also about the same amount shorter than the .38 Super or the .45ACP.
And, as to women or smaller individuals shooting it from compact guns (assuming there are compacts to handle the pressures) NOTHING pushing a 100gr bullet at 1200fps is "light recoil" or pleasant to shoot from a compact size pistol. Not a 9mm or a .30 or anything, that's just a matter of basic mass and energy.
So I feel marketing claims about how the smaller bore size round would benefit women etc, I think that's just market hype.
I think that if a 1200fps 100gr 9mm is a vicious little beast in a compact gun, a .30 cal shooting the same weight bullet at the same speed will be, as well.
Putting a lot of lead in the air often wins in military combat but self defense shooting is a different matter, and while only hits count and only good hits matter, the civilian is legally responsible for ever round they fire. And that includes what and who ever gets hit.
If the round is a snappy little beast many people simply won't practice, and if you don't practice, you don't get good and real world shootings show that even good shots often aren't such good shots when faced with a life or death situation.
All in all, I'm going to pass on this new "wonder round" and just wonder...why??
(other than the profit motive, of course...)
So, I took a look at the linked video, as far as the case drawing, which I found interesting.
and it also explains to a degree why it needs high pressure to deliver what I consider adequate but not outstanding results.
First, the COAL of the round, is the same as the 9mm Luger, !.169" The drawing shows a very tapered bullet with a very large flat point at the max length. Clearly this length was chosen to fit in 9mm frame size guns.
Otherwise, the case is straight with a slight taper, and approximately .30 cal, so smaller in diameter than 9mm or any of the other common larger caliber rounds. And, while the case is 0.07" longer than the 9mm Luger, its also about the same amount shorter than the .38 Super or the .45ACP.
And, as to women or smaller individuals shooting it from compact guns (assuming there are compacts to handle the pressures) NOTHING pushing a 100gr bullet at 1200fps is "light recoil" or pleasant to shoot from a compact size pistol. Not a 9mm or a .30 or anything, that's just a matter of basic mass and energy.
So I feel marketing claims about how the smaller bore size round would benefit women etc, I think that's just market hype.
I think that if a 1200fps 100gr 9mm is a vicious little beast in a compact gun, a .30 cal shooting the same weight bullet at the same speed will be, as well.
Putting a lot of lead in the air often wins in military combat but self defense shooting is a different matter, and while only hits count and only good hits matter, the civilian is legally responsible for ever round they fire. And that includes what and who ever gets hit.
If the round is a snappy little beast many people simply won't practice, and if you don't practice, you don't get good and real world shootings show that even good shots often aren't such good shots when faced with a life or death situation.
All in all, I'm going to pass on this new "wonder round" and just wonder...why??
(other than the profit motive, of course...)
.32 NAA is just that and unfortunately it appears the final nail in its coffin has been set as Hornady apparently discontinued the Critical Defense ammo the offered it in. They were the last major manufacturer of the ammo.I like that the pressure rating is high, but it's just a limit, not a requirement.
I don't like full power .357, .327 or in this case full 30SC in an itty bitty gun, but it would be nice to find something between 32 automatic and full power 30SC that cycles well.
The lucky campers that have these will now be able to buy ammo.
I have to concur with your logic. I have a circa 2011 first-generation Ruger® LC9 (7+1). I'm fortunate to have three magazines. I got the MagGuts® conversion for it; now all my mags hold eight rounds. It is a fine gun and very accurate w/any 147gr ammunition. I cannot rationalize upgrading to another larger pistol for a few more rounds.wild cat mccane said:I said and no one has made mention that Federal said in their marketing the major point is the guns will be slimmer yet there is no way those 3 guns they show are narrower than a 9mm option.
So all you get is +2.
The P365 will still be smaller because it's smaller than the M&P.
Brought nothing. I'm not buying a bigger gun than the P365 to get +2 rounds in a bigger package.
No sense in doing so.
NOOO, DON'T DO THAT. .30 SC is at least double the chamber pressure of 7.65 French contract buster.