Do you want a safety on your CCW gun

Do you wnt a safety on your CCW gun

  • No safety

    Votes: 93 56.0%
  • Safety

    Votes: 51 30.7%
  • Revolver that says it all

    Votes: 24 14.5%
  • I can't find ammo

    Votes: 19 11.4%

  • Total voters
    166
Safety for me.

<< I use a Glock or P7, only safety needed is the one between my ears>>

Funny, I chose a P7 as one of my two EDC's because of the squeeze-cocking function, which I consider to be a grip safety.

YMMV.
 
It could get you killed if you have that safety on when you need your gun.

There are SOOOOO many counter-arguments to that...

1. Proper training will have you instinctively flipping that safe to kill mode every time. If I couldn't devote enough training time to learn this simple task, I would have reservations with carrying a firearm with me. You should stick with one platform though. If you prefer no manual safety, then stick with it completely. Training for 2 different modes of operation is asking for trouble IMHO. I CAN train for 2 different modes on my BDE, as it is DA/SA. I can carry safety off and have the safety of a very long trigger pull. I can also carry safety on. Either way I decide to carry, my thumb still reaches for the safety when I present the weapon so it's a non-issue. If I were to alternate between the BDE and a glock, though, there would be a potential of carrying the BDE and treating it like a glock... ie not releasing the safety. That could result in a very bad day.

2. If your weapon was to be taken from you, there is a much greater chance that someone who isn't familiar with it will bungle the attempt to use it against you as he searches frantically for the safety. You have time to run or fight, depending on practicality of the situation.

3. Many different pistols (mainly the 1911, but there are others) give you the benifit of carrying SA and having a beautiful trigger pull every time.

4. Holster/Clothing snag a non-issue.





Either way, I wouldn't hesitate to carry a glock if I trained for it. I don't think using an argument that pertains more to training is a reason to not carry a pistol with a manual safety.
 
I carry my Springfield 1911 condition one, and I do like the safety. With my finger off the trigger, the safeties on the pistol may not be neccassary, but they cost me no time to flip them off safe. The thumb safety goes off while it is clearing the holster, and the grip safety is off when I grip the gun. Personal preferences.............everyone has them.
 
Having grown up with 1911s, I raise my eyebrow at some of the comments here, chuckle and head to the next thread:rolleyes:

WildiategrasshoppersinjapanAlaska TM
 
I don't normally care about safeties, because if I am carrying one of my semi-auto's; I normally carry it with no round in the chamber. Sorry, but I grew up in New York City; moved to New Jersey; spent 21 years in the military; have lived in New Mexico, Texas, and Wyoming for a combined 23 years. I don't NEED some Hollywood scenario of producing my gun and firing in .325 seconds. I feel quite confident and comfortable being able to chamber a round when I need to. I'm not afraid to live life and I don't live in a Hollywood wild west world or pretending that I am FBI or Secret agent; and that my job automatically increases the odds of needing to protect multiple people on a daily basis.

My guns are nothing more than "Tools" to me. I don't put my life in them or their capabilities. I put my life in MY CAPABILITIES. And I have a lot of "Tools" in my arsenal to protect me. My carry gun is just 1 tool. Now, having said all that, each gun is different, so I do carry or store them differently.

1. 357 magnum revolver: Almost never carry it. I keep it loaded and stored at home for quick access for home defense. All 6 rounds loaded. Obviously, no safety. 1977 S&W Model 13 "K" frame.
2. SigSauer P220 45acp: 50-50 Home defense and self defense. I only carry it in the colder months when I have a coat for easier concealment. Also, the BG has thicker clothes on. It uses a decocker and not a safety, but I don't keep a round in the chamber. I don't need to. The gun is probably one of the MOST RELIABLE guns on the planet. If I need to brandish and pull out the weapon; I have no problem chambering a round at the same time. Same at home. I have absolutely no need to leave it chambered.
3. Walther PPK 32auto. This one has a safety with a drop down hammer combination. When I carry this; (Warmer months where I and the BG usually aren't wearing much more than a shirt or light jacket); I have a round in the chamber with the drop down hammer and safety on. I have absolutely no problem turning off the safety and doing a double-action pull for the first round.

I also have a Springfield-Armory 1911A1 that is really only for home and the range. I almost would never carry it. But when I did carry it and use it at home for my primary home defense; I never carried one in the chamber. I am not a fan of the "Condition 1"; "Cocked, Locked, and Ready to Rock" mentality. I'm not saying people can't carry their 1911A1 this way if they want. Go for it. And if people have a deep seeded feeling that they're the master of the 1911A1 and are preparing to kill a whole gang of bad guys; have fun. I just don't need it. That extra .325 seconds isn't that important to me. Plus, I've seen the safety of a 1911A1 accidentally get turned off and simply re-adjusting the weapon (In holster) on a man's belt, and the weapon discharged. No one was hurt, but there was absolutely no need for this to have even happened. Because, with the right knowledge, training, and practice; you don't need a cocked and locked gun. Not unless you are on patrol. I.e. military, police, etc... entering a bldg. OR Home defense when you hear a noise and you grab your gun to go look. Then you cock and lock it. And with the right practice, you know when the safety comes off and you're ready to pull the trigger.

Anyway; I don't have any need for a loaded chamber most times. I am completely in control and can chamber a round as needed. For the experienced shooters; practical and real life; you know what you like. Do what you like. For the non-experienced gun owner; DON'T learn shooting on the internet in forums. You learn about shooting; especially YOUR GUN; by going to the range. You practice standing, kneeling, lying down, You practice 1 handed, 2 handed, around corners. You practice a couple hundred rounds a month. You practice drawing your weapon, chambering, locking on target, and firing. The chambering part is literally no additional time to the process if you train properly. This isn't the Wild West and a shoot out. But most importantly, you practice the mental exercising that helps you understand the many different ways to not let yourself get put into a position where you need to use the gun. At home is different. But it's your "Home Turf". You've got the advantage. But when out and about, learn how to stay safe. Again; put your LIFE IN YOUR CAPABILITIES. Not in your GUN'S capabilities. The gun is just a tool. And a tool is only as good as the person using it. Just like we keep telling the LIBERALS: "Guns don't Kill People; PEOPLE Kill People". Same goes for self and home defense. "Guns don't PROTECT People; People Protect People". The gun is just a tool.
 
preference. Although my holster covers my trigger completley, and my DA pull is long and heavy, I just like having one. Safety on in the house, sometimes car when I am adjusting the gun for comfort. Other then that, its ready to rock.
 
well, if i have a choice between a safety (switch) or a 10 pound trigger pull, i will take a safety. a well placed shot will usually end the situation pretty fast. if it takes you 3 shots to get a well placed shot, it could get ugly. i have both types of carry gun. and to be honest, i prefer a safety switch and a 4 # pull over the 8+ pound pull of the other. i dont think i have ever seen a safety malfunction. although like any mechanical device, it could. but then, a bus could fall out of the sky also.
 
I prefer no safety and I am heading away from the empty chamber carry (Don't tell me I'm too old to change). However, part of the reason is the selection of guns I happen to have at the moment, which were not selected on the basis of the sort of safety they had or didn't have. As much as I like the 1911 "platform," especially the lightweight Commander in .45 and the 1911 in .38 Super, I have neither at the moment (and I'm unlikely to have one ever again), so I am spared any problems about deciding on a carry method for that. Funny how no one ever mentions the safety that works the "wrong way" on the small Walthers and the older S&W autos.
 
I don't prefer a safety on any of my CCW carry guns (S&W 637, Ruger LCP, Springfield TRP) but I have no issues carrying a gun with a safety.
 
Mall Ninjas and Chairborn Rangers can poo poo about thumb safeties all they want and its not gonna change reality.

Reality is, you have a MUCH BETTER CHANCE of winning a gunfight if you have not shot yourself in the foot, groin or ass when the danger starts.

Hence the value of the thumb safety to the thinking man.
 
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