DA/SA Recommendation for EDC

There isn't one. I've searched high and low for the same. The closest I've seen is maybe a Walther p5.

I've gone to a Sig 230 SL with hot .380 for my very concealable DA/SA thin carry. I know you don't want .380, but sometimes you have to compromise for what you want. Like you, I preferred the DA/SA but tried the HK P2000SK, and it was way too thick. I think that most of the single stacks you are considering are way too thick.

You might have to think about the Kahr k9 for the same size as your shield. Safe for what you want because it has a double action only type trigger and is very revolver like.

If your shield has a safety, why not just use the safety for holstering and then flip it off for carry. It's perfectly safe with a round in the chamber with the firing pin safety. I have no problem carry it in condition one AIWB. It fullfills all my needs, but is just so ugly!LOL
 
. If your shield has a safety, why not just use the safety for holstering and then flip it off for carry. It's perfectly safe with a round in the chamber with the firing pin safety.
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The man has a point! This does solve your dilemma for holstering it.
 
Thanks for all the feedback guys, keep it coming. I'll look at every one.

Ps. The those that recommend the Sig P225, I looked at it before and wish it was just a bit smaller and lighter. It's a beautiful firearm.
 
When you say too big, does that mean thickness or overall size. If size isn't an issue, but thinness is; look for a Browning BDM. It decocks and can be set to DA/SA in Pistol mode. It is the thinnest full sized gun out there. The downside is the guns are somewhat scarce and the magazines are very scarce. High capacity mags are very rare and very expensive.
Just a thought.
 
Walther P99 - Lacks an external hammer
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The P99AS and sub-compact P99cAS (one of the most compact 9x19mm DA/SA pistols I can think of currently in production) lack an external hammer, but they have a visible and tactile cocked striker indicator that will project from the rear of the slide if the striker is cocked or the trigger is pulled in double action mode.
 
Fishbed77 said:
The P99AS and sub-compact P99cAS (one of the most compact 9x19mm DA/SA pistols I can think of currently in production) lack an external hammer, but they have a visible and tactile cocked striker indicator that will project from the rear of the slide if the striker is cocked or the trigger is pulled in double action mode.
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The P99 AS is, in my opinion, the best CCW DA/SA on the market. I've not shot the compact but I am blessed, apparently, with a build that does not need to go so small.

Still, I see no reason why the 99 compact wouldnt be fantastic as well.
 
... Walther P99 - Lacks an external hammer
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The modern P99 is a wonderful firearm in 9mm. It's relatively compact for a "full size" handgun and probably one of the easiest to carry concealed. The ergonomics were groundbreaking back in the day and I think they still hold up quite nicely in the current market. The overall form is low-snag and not having an external hammer is part of it. (Notice that the controls in general move within the plane of the firearm, which has some advantages.) If my memory is correct, there is a little striker indicator that protrudes from the back upon trigger pressure so you should still have some feedback when holstering.

Speaking of triggers, I really like the feel of the P99 AS when used as DA/SA. With the striker mechanism, it feels almost like my finger is smoothly drawing a bow in double action. The single action is actually nicer than the celebrated PPQ in my opinion. The reset is nice and short too.

I've considered...

- Beretta PX4 seems to get good press, but 1.4" thick is a lot.
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This is another gem but you're right, it is bigger. (Between that and the rotating barrel, it's actually one of the softest-shooting polymer options for .40 S&W.) If you really like the PX4, you can always get the low-profile kit from Beretta. It replaces those big, sharp, bat-wing safety levers with nice, nearly flush decockers. It also includes a low-profile slide release but believe me when I tell you this: those bat-wing safety levers are a major contributor to perceived width and chunkiness!

The premium compact carry edition comes with them pre-installed if you want to see the difference IRL. It's still relatively thick but soooooo much more streamlined. It makes the difference between "range toy" and "winter carry" in my opinion.
 
The single action is actually nicer than the celebrated PPQ in my opinion.
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There's no doubt that it's better. The feel and reset are pretty identical, except the P99AS's single action pull is about 1 lb. lighter.
 
jackstrawIII said:
According to Sig’s website, the P250 and P2022 are both a beefy 1.4” thick, which is bigger than the CZ.

The Sphinx SDP is only slightly narrower than the Sigs at 1.37” and is heavier than the CZ at over 28oz.

Anything smaller?
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My SIG P250 subcompact 9 mm has a small sized grip module, which is what the subcompact models usually came with. I also applied a Talon grip sleeve.

The slide is 1.06" wide as measured with a digital caliper. If you measure the point of maximum width across both ambidextrous slide stop levers the width is 1.28" at the thickest part of the levers. The width there is slightly more than the width measured across the take-down lever. But those levers are small in size and smoothly rounded in contour. In my opinion, their functional contribution to the perceived thickness of the pistol is negligible.

The grip frame is 1.1" in thickness at the thickest portion with the Talon grip sleeve.
 
I carry a Beretta 85FS. It's a single stack .380 with all the reliability of the 92 series. It's very high quality, an accurate & excellent shooter, and can be easily concealed.

Edit: Sorry, ignore, just noticed you're not interested in .380.
 
Cosmodragoon and others who have sung the praises of the Walther P99,

I'm right there with you. I really love the P99. We own several of them because they're my wife's favorite pistols and I really enjoy them too. If it only had a hammer, there would be no need for any other pistols (that's an exaggeration. There's always a need for more pistols. But you get the point).

Looks like I need to check out the Sig P250 and the Sphinx. If only that Beretta was narrower...
 
Based on everything posted, it seems the XD-E is the closest or only thing that fits the bill. DA/SA with exposed hammer, reasonably compact and slim, 9mm.

Are the words "Grip Zone" the deal breaker? If this is a carry gun, it's either concealed or in your hand, so you won't be seeing the grip....

Thankfully Springfield has dropped the words from the new Mod 2 version of the XDS.

Otherwise honestly I think a Glock 43 with the"Gadget" is your best choice. Will conceal better than XDE with its shorter grip and lighter weight (also smaller capacity in standard magazine), but it doesn't have the trigger action you prefer.

Have you shot the XDE? I thought it was a pretty competent gun.
 
I went through the EXACT run

I loved my P229...... But for me, it was a pain as I had to get a two clip, pancake holster. It was "doable" but man..... A little too much IMHO

In all I tried P229, P226, CZ75, Bersa UC40, then I went lighter and smaller..... CM9, K40, LCR38,

I ended up with a carry rotation of

M&P40C (Favorite)
M&P Shield in 40
LCR38 - For those days that its pocket only
Taurus G2 - Car gun

I dropped from DA/SA guns completely

Love them.... but they just dont fit the CCW world IMHO --- FOR ME
 
Have you shot the XDE? I thought it was a pretty competent gun.
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I'll admit that I have not. I'm sort of anti Springfield XD series... not sure why. I'm just not that interested in them. With that said, if I had the chance to shoot the XD-E I would do it. The ability to rent guns to try them out is very limited where I live unfortunately, so I'd have to buy it to try it.

Looking like the Glock gadget might be the best solution here... which kinda stinks. I really love DA/SA. Or maybe a Rami and have CGW work on the trigger.
 
Is the Rami very thin? It doesn't look like it, but I've neve handled one.
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By the numbers it's fairly thin: 1.25" and it's significantly lighter than some other guns in that class: 25.9oz. But the one time I handled one it did seem a bit bigger than the numbers due to the large-ish controls on the gun.

The Sig P225 really is a sweet looking gun and I'm sure it shoots well, but it's a solid 4-5oz heavier, and has a lower capacity.
 
I offer another vote for the SW 3913. I bought mine used but consider it my most reliable handgun. It has never flinched. Enjoy.
 
Px4. I swear I hear more good things about this gun from friends, family, internet/press, etc than most other guns. This is on my list as my next carry gun.
 
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