Charter Arms Forum?

What would be a proper lubricant for that area?
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Anything that doesn't turn into a varnish after 3 months. A good quality oil will do just fine.

Mine gets dry fired a lot. I'd notice.
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Yes, you would know immediately, but a lot of my clients were (to put it politely) not the brightest bulbs in the pack when it came to firearms. (This was back in Miami.)

My steel Undercover has a plastic grip frame.
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To me, that's a definite improvement. According to the description by another poster, that would be a lot less prone to cracking or breaking if dropped than the aluminum. Either way, it's still an easy fix.

And, yes, the trigger is somewhat of a PITA to get back in, so don't feel bad.:)
 
Yes, you would know immediately, but a lot of my clients were (to put it politely) not the brightest bulbs in the pack when it came to firearms. (This was back in Miami.)
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I know exactly what you mean. I still can't believe some of the stuff I hear around here pertaining to guns, especially revolvers.

On a more related note, my Bulldog has an aluminum frame. It was manufactured in 2010, if I'm not mistaken.
 
As for Dan, I've heard that the patriot .327's had some problems, apparently charter frames didn't hold up well to .327 pressures. Have you had any problems?
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Haven't had any issues with mine, and I mostly shoot .327 mags out of it.
 
I reload for 40 S&W and tried some of my 200 grain swc in the Pitbull without success. I loaded them long for my semi auto due to the powder I used, HS-6, which filled the case and made a compressed load.
I just bought some Titegroup and loaded some rounds.
Good news is that Titegroup takes half of what HS-6 required at 3.5 grains.
I was able to load the 200 grains swc with no problems and seat them to the proper depth so they fit in the cylinder and seat properly.
 
Many years ago we had this same discussion regarding the fragility of dropped revolvers.

It got to be so annoying that I started dropping my Charter Arms Off Duty out of my office window on the second floor of my home and onto the concrete patio about 15 feet below.

I did that repeatedly, and made sure to drop it so that it would land in various aspects.

I enclosed it in heavy plastic bags so that the finish wouldn't get too chewed up.

IIRC (I recounded it all here) I dropped it close to 20 times, and it came through unscathed.

I got it to land on BOTH sides of the cylinder more than once, and it never affected lock up or operation.

The hammer strut also never popped out, the grip frame never broke, and it remains functional and serviceable to this day.

I'll have to go digging for those threads, but right now, given us having just moved servers, the search feature is off line.


Thank the good Lord for Google Search!

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72856
 
I did that repeatedly, and made sure to drop it so that it would land in various aspects.

I enclosed it in heavy plastic bags so that the finish wouldn't get too chewed up.

IIRC (I recounded it all here) I dropped it close to 20 times, and it came through unscathed.

I got it to land on BOTH sides of the cylinder more than once, and it never affected lock up or operation.

The hammer strut also never popped out, the grip frame never broke, and it remains functional and serviceable to this day.
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Just recounting repairs with which I had first hand experience. I dealt with it more than once.

As the saying goes, YMMV.
 
I'm a Charter Arms fan, too.

My Off Duty, a 12 ounce pocket companion.

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My old Bridgeport Undercover that has been a faithful friend for many years.

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And another Bridgeport Undercover.

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An old Bridgeport Bull Dog that I shortened to a 2 incher. I have a nicer Bull Dog and always wanted a .44 Special pocket gun. I found this one and modified it. It's a handful with .300 grain cast bullets.

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Sign me up!!! Have an Off Duty made in Stratford from the 70s a Pittbul that is very accurate and just got the Bulldog yesterday. My old one was stolen from my father in laws house 30yrs ago. the factory is 5miles down the road from house, been there a few times to get holsters and grips. Nice set-up and very friendly service.:):)
 
Mike Irwin: Oh great...while reading your post I sprayed Diet Coke all over my monitor!:D:D Thanks for that report. While it's pretty much accepted that revolvers, because of their exposed components, SHOULD be more fragile than autos, your testing obviously proves they CAN be quite ruigged. I picked my Charter that broke in half when I dropped it on the carpet, and glued it back together with Crazy Glue (you can do some crazt things with Crazy Glue). It works great and I'm sure it will last until it's next carpet adventure. :eek::p
 
There was another thread that kicked off that response, and I'll be damned if I've been able to find it.

The guy who was expounding on the fragility of revolvers was making some ludicrous claims.

The one I liked was something to the effect of "what if you drop your gun off a 200 foot cliff? Think you revolver would survive?"

My answer was along the lines of "I don't think it would matter which one you dropped, because you'd be disarmed and screwed at a time when you obviously needed you gun, and you've violated Irwin's First Rule of Firearms... Don't be a frigging idiot."



OH HELL! That thread is linked in my first post! I didn't see it.
 
I reload for 40 S&W and tried some of my 200 grain swc in the Pitbull without success. I loaded them long for my semi auto due to the powder I used, HS-6, which filled the case and made a compressed load.
I just bought some Titegroup and loaded some rounds.
Good news is that Titegroup takes half of what HS-6 required at 3.5 grains.
I was able to load the 200 grains swc with no problems and seat them to the proper depth so they fit in the cylinder and seat properly.
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As a follow up, the bullets did not all seat in the cylinder allowing it to close.
I remembered I have a Lee Factory Carbide Crimp Die for 40 S&W.
I ran a box of reloads through the crimp die, it resized the cartridge and put a good crimp on it. About 99% of the rounds now fit in the cylinder of the Pitbull allowing it to close.

I just like the thought of a 200 grain bullet out of a 5" barrel in 40 S&W.
I also have a Mechtech CCU for a Glock 22 lower that is 40 S&W making it into a 40 caliber carbine. the 200 grain bullet out of the 16" barrel is moving an estimated 1200-1300 fps. :)

When I hog hunt I use the Mechtech and will have the Pitbull as a sidearm.
 
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A first gen Undercover with a Tyler T-Grip and a new Bulldog with a BK grip are the only Charter Arms I currently own. The bulldog came dao and the Undercover was converted with a hammer bought from Charter Arms.
 
RELOADING

Enfield,
I know to best use and shoot a 44SPL is to reload. But apparrently RE-LOADING is not for me. I ruined a Dan Wesson Mod. 15 trying to learn to reload, so I just buy my ammo. Safer and cheaper in the long view.

J. Budd
 
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I tried ALL the heavier factory .40 S&W loads in my Pitbull and ALL of them hurt like hell from recoil. Everything from 180 grain down to 155 grain. I think the HEAVIER bullet and/or the hotter-as-you-get-lighter loadings might be the problem. So I grabbed some Winchester Ranger 135 grain FMJ-Flat Point and I will try that. It's not loaded real hot and the flat point will be better than a round nose against human targets. They make a JHP of this load, but it has had mixed reviews about effectiveness.
 
Lately I have been wanting a 6-shot .38 snub and I was looking at the Charter Police Undercover. That's what led me to this thread. It's too bad that S&W is out of the K frame snub game.

With all of the enthusiasm for Charter guns on this thread, I don't feel any hesitation for moving forward on one.

Mike, I would love to see a video of your Charter drop test if you have one. I know it was a long time ago but I always get a kick out of watching people do those wacky abuse tests on their firearms. :)
 
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