Bye Bye Elliot

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Musketeer said:
No more than the guy who volunteers to clean toilets for money. A job is a job.

I think I've lost track of what this argument is about.

smokin' hot chicks.....OOoooohh

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Not exactly the same thing...

On July 20, 1990, the House ethics committee absolved Frank of knowing about the prostitution ring
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"This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible," Vitter, 46, said in a statement, which his spokesman, Joel DiGrado, confirmed to the Associated Press.

"Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling," Vitter continued. "Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there -- with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way."

But hey, as long as God forgave him, everything's cool
 
Prostitution exploites women, and demeans and degrades them. Other than that, I guess it is no big dea

If you read the book Mayflower Madam: The Secret Life of Sydney Biddle Barrows by Sydney Biddle Barrows, you will find that real life prostitutes do not necessarily agree with your blanket statement. In fact, they would argue the point with you.
 
If you read the book Mayflower Madam: The Secret Life of Sydney Biddle Barrows by Sydney Biddle Barrows, you will find that actual prostitutes do not necessarily agree with your blanket statement.
A friend of ours here has a sister who is probably the most famous madame of modern times and she would disagree also.
 
The fact that prostitutes accept being exploited, demeaned and degraded does not mean that it isn't a fact. Just as many victims of domestic violence accept having the crap beat out of them on a regular basis, and do not see it as a problem.
 
The fact that prostitutes accept being exploited, demeand and degraded does not mean that it isn't a fact. Just as many victims of domestic violence accept having the crap beat out of them on a regular basis, and do not see it as a problem.
Not a valid comparison at all. You idea of degradation and exploitation is not the same as someone else's and you cannot force your restrictive and uptight morality on others...no matter how hard you try.

You tried to accuse me of being on a "soapbox" earlier for questioning you. I am amazed you can read the writing on the box from way up there on your "moral" high ground from which you like to cast down your assertions. :)
 
Stupid hookers. Ain't got enough sense to know they are being exploited. They really need to park that $100,000 Porsche, go immediately to their penthouse Manhattan apartment and jump off the balcony. :rolleyes:
 
Not a valid comparison at all. You idea of degradation and exploitation is not the same as someone else's and you cannot force your restrictive and uptight morality on others...no matter how hard you try.

It has nothing to do with my "uptight morality". It has to do with the psychological aspects of prostitution.

Prostitution, just like pornography, demeans, degrades, and exploites women. It is not just my view, it is a view held by more than a few psychologists.

I don't claim moral high ground. I'm not making this argument from a moral standpoint, but from a psychological one. You probably aren't able to discern the difference.
 
It has nothing to do with my "uptight morality". It has to do with the psychological aspects of prostitution.

Prostitution, just like pornography, demeans, degrades, and exploites women. It is not just my view, it is a view held by more than a few psychologists.
Really? I was not aware the the AMA or the psychiatric review board had declared prostitution as a disease or condition. I was under the impression that the psychological results of individual actions vary...dependent on mindset, reason, desire, personal emotional developement, and personal belief. :rolleyes:
 
Prostitution, just like pornography, demeans, degrades, and exploites women. It is not just my view, it is a view held by more than a few psychologists.

Many of whom have a political agenda in their views.

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Who has the more demoralizing job - a cashier at MegaLoMart or a hooker? It's not a clear choice to me.

I always thought prostitution more degrading to the person doing the paying. Having to pay someone to pretend to be sexually interested? No thanks. To me, that seems even worse than being willing to accept payment to have sex. These men are exploiting and degrading themselves horribly! (Wish there was a "half wink" smilie to show I'm only half kidding).

Getting back to the thread topic, did he resign today?
 
They really need to park that $100,000 Porsche, go immediately to their penthouse Manhattan apartment and jump off the balcony.

And this is the 1% of prostitutes. Most women who sell themselves are knocked around both by the people they work for as well as their clients.
 
On July 20, 1990, the House ethics committee absolved Frank of knowing about the prostitution ring
True, but reprimanded for unethical behavior. I'm sure he didn't know his prostitute was prostituting.:rolleyes:
But hey, as long as God forgave him, everything's cool
I think you missed the point.
 
A friend of ours here has a sister who is probably the most famous madame of modern times and she would disagree also.

Yea and most of the crack addicts out there would argue against us that they have an addiction problem too :rolleyes:
 
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