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I see. So, if we play by the "rules" and they don't..........they live and we die..........we "win" ?
Na... we can still win and also keep our humanity.
I see. So, if we play by the "rules" and they don't..........they live and we die..........we "win" ?
Na... we can still win and also keep our humanity.
How is that? What's to say we can't win without resorting to torture?Well, one of us is very naive, and I'm pretty sure it isn't me.
Of the sort that John McCain exhibits from time to time, for example.For a cruel or inhuman psychological technique to rise to the level of mental torture, the Justice Department argued, the psychological harm must last "months or even years."
Balderdash.According to that definition, if waterboarding simulates drowning, then it would be torture.
I (surprisingly) found some pubic substantiation to what I've eluded to.
What traditional characteristics do you think it lacks?
We are suppposed to better than they are.
So far we have only officially waterboarded 3 people, and the intelligence we gathered from this was so-so
Physical pain and physical injury.
EVERY report that has been given says that the intel was great and there was lots of it.
We are.We are suppposed to better than they are.
The people who were waterboarded are, to the best of my knowledge, still alive, healthy, and none the worse for wear for the experience.
If you knew any rape victims, you'd know this statement is wrong on many levels.Same could be said for most rape victims.
I haven't read all the posts since last night yet but I wanted to respond to this one.What seems to be lost here is that the terrorists who are (and should be) the object of torture are cowardly murderers. They would jump at the chance to behead you and your family, or me and my family. They would have no qualms about eviscerating you on the street in front of your house and dancing on your entrails.
That's not what I said, and you know it. Your comment shows you don't know any rape victims, because if you did you'd know your comment is wrong on many levels.millions of womens have been raped, most return to normal functional status.
As I've written in other posts, as a former naval aviator I'm also familiar with waterboarding. There is no way I would ever compare waterboarding as being anywhere near as bad as being raped.